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Calypsis4
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Message 87 of 182 (527697)
10-02-2009 9:28 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Granny Magda
10-01-2009 7:29 PM


Re: Some answers
Just this morning though, I found a grilled cheese sandwich with the face of Richard Dawkins on it...
Which holds together what as designated by what ancient word of truth?
Document it please. I did.

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Message 88 of 182 (527698)
10-02-2009 9:57 AM
Reply to: Message 82 by Dr Jack
10-02-2009 5:17 AM


Re: Laminin Shaminin
That's so cute
That statement was not cute:
Let me show you something:
Do you recognize this object:
From a different angle it looks like this:
So does changing the angle or viewing the same object from a different perspective change the shape of the object? No. Then does fact that Laminin is flexible as to connects one cell to another change the fact that its basic design is a cross? No.
The truth is that Laminin holds every single living cell in the world together and the fact that an ancient text reveals that the crucified One 'holds all thing together' and that He does so by the 'word of His power' verily shouts an eternal truth that cannot be ignored...not by honest people.

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Calypsis4
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Message 89 of 182 (527699)
10-02-2009 9:59 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by bluescat48
10-01-2009 10:18 PM


Re: Some answers
"Other than the fact that your holy book is a collection of bronze age mythology and not science. This is a science topic, no matter what, your book is irrelevant to the topic at hand."
The subject here is 'creation vs evolution'. If you don't wish to discuss the Creator then why do you come to such a venue to begin with?

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Calypsis4
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Message 93 of 182 (527726)
10-02-2009 12:56 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by mark24
10-02-2009 3:38 AM


Re: Facts?
And when you apply the standards you expect of your opponents to yourself, it turns out you can't demonstrate that god did it, either.
Yes, I can. But that would take us clearly off topic.

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Calypsis4
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Message 94 of 182 (527731)
10-02-2009 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by onifre
10-02-2009 11:42 AM


Re: Facts?
100 years of texbook when it comes to evolutionary biology?
You forgot to mention 100 yrs of scientists that said that evolution is false: Dr. Rudolph Virchow, Dr. Louis Agassiz, Dr. George McReady Price, Dr. Jean Henri Fabre, Dr. Fred Hoyle, Dr. Chandra Wickramasinghe, Dr. Henry Morris, Dr. Dean Kenyon, and more recently Dr. John Sanford, of Cornell U., one who believed in and taught evolution for 50 yrs. but tossed it out after his study of genetics. These are just a few of thousands of scientists listed in my files who either (a) would not accept it to begin with or (b) rejected if after research and study of the subject.
Evolution is not science, it is an interpretation of science. Not a very good one either. Nature cannot do what evolutionists insist that it does.

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Calypsis4
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Message 96 of 182 (527734)
10-02-2009 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Dr Jack
10-02-2009 10:32 AM


Re: Laminin Shaminin
Don't be ridiculous, it's clearly much closer to the Rod of Hermes - look at how those b1 and b2 chains are wrapped around the central a chain - it's a demonstration on earth of Zeus's influence.
How can any honest person deny that?
Then show us from the ancient 'book of Hermes' or the 'book of Zeus' which tells us that 'HE' holds all things together.
You wish to compare THAT with this?
Sorry, that doesn't work.
I've looked at many pages of symbols of Zeus but found nothing that connects him to a cross like that which Jesus died upon. Please give some historical reference that will connect him with the living cell.

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Calypsis4
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Message 98 of 182 (527737)
10-02-2009 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by mark24
10-02-2009 1:06 PM


Re: Facts?
[qs]No, you can't.
Mark{/qs
I know about 40 people who were atheists, satanists, Wiccans, psychics, and secularists who saw something powerful enough to convert them to Jesus Christ that would beg to differ with you. Unfortunately, I cannot tell about them in this venue.
Now back to the topic.

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Calypsis4
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Message 99 of 182 (527739)
10-02-2009 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by Theodoric
10-02-2009 1:36 PM


Re: How forum works
This site is split between faith forums and science forums. YOu are posting in the science side, there fore it is incumbent upon you yo provide scientific evidence. Godidit is not scientific.
So, 'nature did it', right?
You need to stop complaining. Laminin is very much a part of science and there isn't anything you can do about it. The fact that it so closely resembles the cross of Jesus is a matter that is not lost to those of us who have known that the scriptures teach that Jesus Christ is the Creator who holds all things together (Colossians 1:16-17)
I will say it again; if you don't wish to talk about the Creator, then perhaps you need to move to another website. This is the CREATION vs evolution website. Right? Just in case you hand't noticed.

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Calypsis4
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Message 104 of 182 (527761)
10-02-2009 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by Dman
10-02-2009 2:26 PM


Re: How forum works
Another intellectually dishonest statement. No one said this.
You have been given a scientific model (not paraded as absolute truth, but still scientific). You chose to "hand wave" it away. Fine. But remember your post is in the science section. "Poof" is not science and will not constitute as an alternative here.
If 'nature did it' is an error and that 'God did it' is an error, then what options are left? Please explain.
Why don't you try being honest with those with whom you differ with? I didn't 'hand wave' away anything so frivolously as you suggest. I did a lot of reading and research on this subject and I've done a lot more since I tossed out evolution. Reasoning like yours just makes that decision that much stronger.
Now, tell the readers why 'poof' is not scientific. Do it by empirical investigation.
Explain why all the hundreds of examples living fossils (fast growing toward thousands) is not evidence against biological evolution when in fact, anatomical changes cannot be seen from one kind of organism to another. That should be as easy as it is to trace back the Ford Broncho to Henry Fords first car.

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Calypsis4
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Message 105 of 182 (527762)
10-02-2009 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by mark24
10-02-2009 1:53 PM


Re: Facts?
I know 40 people who "saw the light" of evolution, so as it turns out evolution is demonstrably true
Ah, then you DO believe in miracles!

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Calypsis4
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Message 106 of 182 (527766)
10-02-2009 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Theodoric
10-02-2009 1:45 PM


Re: Topic please!!!
Any chance of getting back to the topic and a little less preaching and proselytizing??
We never left it. You just don't like to talk about Laminin. Why is that, Mr. skeptic?
Ok you can name drop. How about telling us who they, their field of expertise and what they actually said.
I sure can. I can give you a lot more than that. But if I did as you suggested would it make any difference to those who are emotionally committed to a lie?
Nope.

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Calypsis4
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Message 109 of 182 (527782)
10-02-2009 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by Dman
10-02-2009 4:08 PM


Re: How forum works
The truth is left to be found in that case.
Not for us.
BUT you have yet to show the supernatural origins.
That's because I cannot create anything. No one can. It comes down to final options. Since the natural world cannot create itself, it had to have a source outside of the phsyical to create it.
The living fossils reveal the stasis that God placed in all organisms and fit under the category of the 'law of kind' as mentioned in Genesis.
Sure looked like it to me. Your whole argument reeks of personal incredulity.
Only to those who have never experienced the supernatural.

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Calypsis4
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Message 110 of 182 (527785)
10-02-2009 4:20 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by Theodoric
10-02-2009 4:14 PM


Re: Topic please!!!
You mean your argument about laminin looking like a cross was a serious argument?
I would say, "Gosh, you're catching on slowly," but alas, you're only nit picking.
Have fun posting the other forum members.

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Calypsis4
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Message 113 of 182 (527793)
10-02-2009 4:35 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by Dman
10-02-2009 4:32 PM


Re: Vague vague and more vague
You just aren't getting it. So you claim to have experienced the supernatural.
No, it is YOU that is not getting it. Not even close.
I would love to discuss the supernatural but I have been warned twice to stay on topic and I am tying.
Living fossils destroy evolution: utterly. My opponents are not being honest about this very clear-cut issue. That is because they are all emotionally committed to a fabrication called 'evolution.'

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Calypsis4
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Message 115 of 182 (527831)
10-02-2009 7:16 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by Dr Jack
10-02-2009 1:44 PM


Re: Laminin Shaminin
Clearly, denying the symbolism in how the b1 and b2 chains (dare I say snakes) wrap around the central staff, mirroring the Rod of Hermes and demonstrating Zeus's power on earth. All praise Zeus!
You are not being honest with me nor with yourself.
Observe this:
This is the classic painting of Moses & the brazen serpent.
The symbols of paganism are a counterfeit of the true faith and its symbols. Jesus Christ is the co-Creator with the Father and this world is His. His symbol is on every single cell in the entire world just as the divine scriptures teach it.
Now IF you can offer a scripture from the pagan holy books that teach that Zeus's symbol is on each cell then do so.

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