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Teapots&unicorns
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Message 1 of 5 (527515)
10-01-2009 4:34 PM


Hi everybody.
Science is not such a strict thing as people here think. Time after time I've heard that, because it refuses to consider the supernatural, opinions are automatically dashed before they are considered. However, I don't think this is a correct stance. Sure, science only works with the natural world, but that's because it's all that we objectively know. By "objective," I mean that all people, regardless of religion or culture, can come to that same conclusion- or at least similar ones- by observing the facts.
What I am asking is this: If God(s) revealed him/themselves to us today, then wouldn't scientists everywhere work to understand how he does what he does? Even if he had absolute power over the universe, there would have to be a way that he did it (maybe quantum... ). In other words, in my opinion, whether or not the cause (God) is supernatural or not, the effect must be natural and thus is capable of being tested.
Please note that I would not like this to degenerate into an "is religion factual" argument.
Edited by Teapots&unicorns, : No reason given.

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10-02-2009 12:56 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Teapots&unicorns
10-01-2009 4:34 PM


As presented, I just don't have a good feeling about this one
Is there a debate theme in there?
Feel free to edit message 1 or to post a new message in this same topic. But I just don't see this one being functional as initially presented.
It kind of reminds me of a topic I wrote and proposed under the influence of alcohol - It got rejected.
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Teapots&unicorns
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Message 3 of 5 (527818)
10-02-2009 5:51 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Adminnemooseus
10-02-2009 12:56 AM


Re: As presented, I just don't have a good feeling about this one
Check my edit.
Thanks

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10-02-2009 9:22 PM
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10-02-2009 5:51 PM


Still kind of nebulous, but I'll promote it
My prediction is that this topic will go nowhere, and if it does go somewhere, it won't be a good somewhere. But I may be wrong.
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