why does the Idea of creation stick around?

why does the Idea of creation stick around? (I mean mass religions) When it was proven Disease was not Caused by Demons and Evil Spirits. People excepted it no problem it was Fact. things like this etc.... so why do these Religions stick around? I mean why is it so Horrible to think You evolved? People are more Ignorant it seems then they where Before. The Theory Of Evolution has been around since 1859 and 8 out of 10 People are still creationists? if you ask me this is insane.[This message has been edited by DC85, 08-11-2003]

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The Theory Of Evolution has been around since 1859 and 8 out of 10 People are still creationists? if you ask me this is insane.

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I would dispute this figure. Creationism is easier to understand than evolution because it requires no thought or education. So if you did a poll, you would get a disproportionate number of people opting for Creationism simply because they find science to be scary and confusing. (The figures in countries outside America would be far lower anyway... in godforsaken Australia, for example.)I just came upon this relevant quote:"In times of change, learners inherit the Earth, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists." Eric Hoffer------------------
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I think it's something along the lines that
some creationists think that evolution disproves the
existence of their god(s) ... that's scary stuff for
someone who is used to the crutch of faith.

Well, personally I am not afraid of evolution. I think most people agree that the meaning to their lives, (having a mind)means something, and that we also 'mean something ' to God. But evolution suggests we are merely products of nature, 'survival of fittest' and our actions are futile and our minds are futile and we are all just a product of evolution. Personally I think that evolution is not appealing because it makes us unspecial compared to how special we really are, being a cherished creation. I dont mind , personally if I am special or not, all I know is that I think creation is too incredible to have just came about by chance.

Boils down to discipline and greed...

• 8 out of 10 people like to gamble and play
• 2 out of 10 want to risk nothing and study

To believe in evolution you have to learn a bunch of extra stuff and you don't get jack squat when ya die...while on the other hand, you have a chance of living forever in paradise if you believe in a religion.

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It can be likened to playing lotto...and everybody knows ya can't win, if ya don't play!!

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evolution fails to deliver any final incentive------------------

Not even Freedom From Religion. ------------------
http://www.sun-day-school.us

That's the beautiful part

• The Theory of Evolution
• The New Covenant

both offer freedom from religion.organized religion = corporate enterprise------------------

I agree that organized religion is a corporate enterprise. But that does not make disorganized religion any more attractive to me.As for the New Covenant offering freedom from religion: Freedom from Old Judaism, yes, but what of the New Judaism, i.e. Christianity?------------------
http://www.sun-day-school.us

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Well, personally I am not afraid of evolution.

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Based upon the remainder of your reply I would beg to differ,
although I feel that 'afraid' may be too strong -- 'uneasy'
might cover it better.

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I think most people agree that the meaning to their lives, (having a mind)means something, and that we also 'mean something ' to God. But evolution suggests we are merely products of nature, 'survival of fittest' and our actions are futile and our minds are futile and we are all just a product of evolution.

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The above is the exact kind of projection that has caused the
problem for some creationists.Why would life be meaningless based upon how it came about?In what way does evolution suggest that their is no god?If God exists then it created a vastly complex, interacting
system of biological agents. What makes you think that
adaptability of species wouldn't be included in that design?Is an unplanned baby of any less worth than a planned one?All you are saying to me is 'The thought of a universe without
God to give me purpose is too scary.'

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Personally I think that evolution is not appealing because it makes us unspecial compared to how special we really are, being a cherished creation. I dont mind , personally if I am special or not, all I know is that I think creation is too incredible to have just came about by chance.

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Why do you need the species to be special?You have just illustrated my point remarkably well -- clinging
to creationism is founded in the belief that evolution
disprooves God and without God humanity is nothing.Both are false.

This again is in line with my view of why creationism
is still around.We don't need a final incentive -- be happy, be good to each other
that's all that we should be doing -- that's all Jesus says in
the new testament and look what twisted politicians and the
power-hungry priests of the past did with THAT message!!

Evolution doesn't give you freedom from religion,
since it is entirely compatable with an all powerful God
(after all, what isn't?)What gives you freedom from religion is a complete lack
of religious brainwashing as a child, coupled with a good
education and an enquiring mind.

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Well, personally I am not afraid of evolution.

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The question is do you know anything about it? Have you read any scientific texts, research articles, etc.?

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I think most people agree that the meaning to their lives, (having a mind)means something, and that we also 'mean something ' to God.

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The meaning means something?..kind of circular. I have meaning in my life yet I am an atheist who studies molecular evolution so obviously a christian worldview is not a requirement for a meaningful life.

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But evolution suggests we are merely products of nature, 'survival of fittest' and our actions are futile and our minds are futile and we are all just a product of evolution.

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Why are our actions and minds futile because we evolved? Why is it any more or less futile no matter how we came to be?...and "merely a product of nature" takes an exceptionally limited view of nature.

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Personally I think that evolution is not appealing because it makes us unspecial compared to how special we really are, being a cherished creation.

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I don't see how evolution makes us "not special" but science does not deal with discovery that is "appealing"..it deals with finding out the best explanation for the phenomenon of the natural world whether we like the truth or not. I find the dogma of religion unappealing because it forces people to close their minds, not think, and ignore the world around them.

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I dont mind , personally if I am special or not, all I know is that I think creation is too incredible to have just came about by chance.

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Basing ones worldview on personal incredulity is a pity.

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Personally I think that evolution is not appealing because it makes us unspecial compared to how special we really are, being a cherished creation.

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No offense Mike, but damn that's sad. You really can't think of anything that makes you special other than God?------------------
Ms. Krabappal:Are there any more questions?
Bart:Yes, how would I go about making a half man half monkey creature?
Krabapal:I'm sorry Bart, that would be playing God.
Bart:God schmod! I want my monkey man!

Listen guys, you were the ones who said most people are creationist, I am in my opinion, telling you why. Lets just say we did evolve for a moment, when would I have a soul? does this mean apes have souls?
at what stage would I need a name? am I more important than an animal?
I personally take the old and new testaments as the word of God. But according to the book I have a soul, I was created in God's image, but you are telling me a different story, which I believe is not only untrue but only one mans theory. Also I do not think the evidence you suggest is 'absolute' as you 'suggest' it is.p.s I am not suggesting closing up your mind and going to church, I even agree with you about religion, if you listen hard you'll realise this isn't about religion. But if you are asking why creationist? then you will have to consider the 'layperson' or stop accusing us all of being ignorant, come down off the pedestal, change the 'we are right and can think, you are wrong and closed minded' attitude, then maybe all these creationists will listen to you a bit more.

'No offense Mike, but damn that's sad. You really can't think of anything that makes you special other than God?'Can you name something more special than everlasting life with God. I am open to suggestions but I havent had a better offer so far.lol.
can you name something that would make me more special?
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