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Author Topic:   Does Death Pose Challenge To Abiogenesis
Coragyps
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Message 4 of 191 (533038)
10-28-2009 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Cedre
10-28-2009 9:20 AM


what is certain is nothing natural is known to cause life or to add years to it.
Not too certain - restricting lab rats to 70% of their normal amount of food adds a year or so to their three-year normal lifespan. And recent research is narrowing in on the chemical basis for that extension.
And life as we know it now needs a lot more than carbon compounds - one really important class is phosphorus compounds like ATP (with carbon, nitrogen, oxygen and hydrogen also present) which provide the electrical currents to keep bacteria and people moving.

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Coragyps
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Message 58 of 191 (533223)
10-29-2009 11:52 AM
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10-29-2009 11:19 AM


Re: All we need is magic
Prayer should be plenty sufficient for everything....
Yeah, it restores the limbs of amputees all the time.
Prayer is as "effective" as farting, but gives you less relief.

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Coragyps
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Message 102 of 191 (533333)
10-30-2009 7:12 AM
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10-30-2009 2:18 AM


Re: Emergent proerties.....
It's not what is expected, as I showed above, a car may have all the necessary parts intact but unless there's a driver it won't have speed, in the same vein a body may be present but without a spirit and soul it won't have life.
So nematodes and mushrooms have souls and spirits, correct? Those are requirements for life, or just for animal life? Clarify that for me before we go much further, Cedre - it impacts your argument a bit.
Does an earthworm have a soul and a spirit? Is an earthworm alive?
How about a maple tree?

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Coragyps
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Message 106 of 191 (533339)
10-30-2009 9:16 AM
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10-30-2009 8:34 AM


Re: Emergent proerties.....
So you didn't really mean it when you wrote "but without a spirit and soul it won't have life." I see.
Does an E. coli bacterium have a spirit?

"The wretched world lies now under the tyranny of foolishness; things are believed by Christians of such absurdity as no one ever could aforetime induce the heathen to believe." - Agobard of Lyons, ca. 830 AD

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Coragyps
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Message 125 of 191 (533364)
10-30-2009 11:41 AM
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10-30-2009 11:10 AM


Re: Relevant to the Origin of Life
Stick to bacteria which is closer to relevant.
And tell us if bacteria have "spirits."

"The wretched world lies now under the tyranny of foolishness; things are believed by Christians of such absurdity as no one ever could aforetime induce the heathen to believe." - Agobard of Lyons, ca. 830 AD

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