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Author Topic:   The moons, eclipses, and timing
Theodoric
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Message 106 of 112 (533283)
10-29-2009 6:48 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Calypsis4
10-29-2009 4:21 PM


nothing to counter with
Nice waste of a post. How about reading what he wrote and at least trying to counter with some sort of cogent argument. Your lame attempts at proselytizing has just turned people off more and more. I don't think you could convince anyone to follow your religion.
Now how about his argument. Do you still think this lunar eclipse, not solar(you do know the difference don't you), would have made a huge impact on the people in the Levant when it happened?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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kbertsche
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Message 107 of 112 (533299)
10-29-2009 10:29 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by lyx2no
10-29-2009 6:33 PM


Re: Red Moon Rising
quote:
Some portion of the moon's surface receiving full sunlight, not the observers.
AbE: Actually, let me modify that somewhat. Full sunlight is an over statement. I should have said direct sunlight. Even if the Sun is only peaking around the Earth a little bit (Moon in the Earth's penumbra) the redness is washed out.
OK, this makes sense. If the moon were entirely in the penumbra, redness would probably not be seen. But if part were in the unbra, this part should appear reddish.

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lyx2no
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Message 108 of 112 (533308)
10-29-2009 11:38 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by kbertsche
10-29-2009 10:29 PM


Re: Red Moon Rising
But if part were in the unbra, this part should appear reddish.
Only if the moon is fully within the umbra does it appear red. That's the point of my modification. If even a tiny part of the Sun peaks around the Earth it floods the moon with so much light the small amount of red cast into the shadow is insignificant, and one sees a gray cum black moon.
For the Moon to be seen as red the residents of the Levant would have had to have been observing a total lunar eclipse or some other, unrelated event. And even at that they'd also need time for their eyes to be dark adjusted for the red tinge to register.
A Moon low on the horizon can appear red with non dark-adjusted eyes because the full amount of light reflected off of the Moon is being filtered by the atmosphere as it travels from the Moon to the observer. There's a whole heck of a lot more red light in the light reflected off of the Moon then there is in the dribble that makes it round the Earth to tinge the umbra. And We're no done yet, there are further losses as it bounces back and is filtered by the atmosphere again.
Another explanation for the red Moon will have to be found. My pet is that high drama is a Bible writers groove.

It's not the man that knows the most that has the most to say.
Anon

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Coyote
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Message 109 of 112 (533312)
10-30-2009 12:22 AM
Reply to: Message 103 by Calypsis4
10-29-2009 4:28 PM


NON-TOPIC SNIPING HIDDEN
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : NON-TOPIC SNIPING HIDDEN

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 110 of 112 (533411)
10-30-2009 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by Calypsis4
10-29-2009 4:28 PM


Re: Serious subjects
That is exactly correct and if you don't repent of the things you've done wrong in life you will be there.
And what have I done wrong that is anything worse than what you have done wrong? How do you know what things I have or have not changed in my life. You have no clue.
But you sit in your self-content, self-righteous, self-conceited little world doling out hypocritical condemnations. What a petty little person you are. I pity you.
But He still does. God doesn't need your permission to exist, O lost one. You will stand before Him in judgment in the day appointed just like everyone else and you will give an account of every single thing you have ever done wrong.
And supposedly you will be gloating and smiling in the background as 99% of your friends, family and fellow humans are condemned TORTURED FOR ETERNITY. Yes, yes I know. I used to be a bible thumper and hell and brimfire religious person too.
And you wonder why people are leaving your religion by the droves.
As personal freedom, human equality and knowledge increase the power of religious intolerance and fear of the unknown decrease.
You are a dying breed. You are on a sinking ship and do not even know it.
You aren't telling the truth. God never destroyed the 'entire' human race and never will.
What do you call the flood? He supposedly killed the entire human race save a few miserable souls. Or do you read your Bible.
He will destroy those who are evil...like you.
I could say something derogatory but I am not going to lower myself to your level. Your a sad, sad man.
Good bye Calypsis. I hope you do find some peace in this life.
Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous. - Carl Sagan, The Fine Art of Baloney Detection
"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe." - Carl Sagan
"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

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lyx2no
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Message 111 of 112 (533423)
10-30-2009 4:39 PM
Reply to: Message 110 by DevilsAdvocate
10-30-2009 4:14 PM


Re: Serious subjects
And you're getting coal in your stocking. So there.

It's not the man that knows the most that has the most to say.
Anon

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bluescat48
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Message 112 of 112 (533635)
11-02-2009 12:32 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by kbertsche
10-29-2009 11:20 AM


Re: Lunar Eclipse
Yes, your quote and comments agree with the the claims of Humphreys and Waddington.
Yes, only I hadn't seen your post when I posted mine.
Edited by bluescat48, : erased quote

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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