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CosmicChimp
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Message 4 of 139 (535421)
11-15-2009 9:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Blzebub
11-15-2009 6:23 PM


The site is a tremendous resource for debaters everywhere. It is the best moderated site on the web (AFAIK). Which in turn makes the first point more valuable. The site is populated by many experts in their field, which also reinforces point one.
Because of its position so high up the rung of internet discussions of evo vs creo, creationists with the most in depth points to make online will eventually come here and then be shown scientifically why their arguments are false. This is a great help to many lurkers as people everywhere are searching for answer.

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CosmicChimp
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Message 74 of 139 (535963)
11-18-2009 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Arphy
11-18-2009 6:00 PM


... what compels an athiest to tell the truth and not lie? It may harm his career if he gets caught or he might "feel" that he shouldn't, but as such s/he does not have to subject him or herself to any higher authority except for what s/he decides if this is in their best interest. So an athiest is not "restricted" to telling the truth, they may "choose" to, but they are not compelled by anything other than what the "choose" to be compelled by (e.g. standing in scientific community).
That's a really repugnant argument you have there. As an atheist I can assure you that I do not lie merely for the reason you have given. Simple respect for someone else is a reason off the top of my head and in everyday life.
More specifically addressing your point, scientist have dedicated their careers to essentially not lying (i.e. finding facts and giving truthful explanations for the facts). Career dedication; don't you think that counts for something? Look at Coyote's testimony (msg #72), he vividly recalls, almost painfully remembers, errors (unintended untruths). That's an example of career dedication and intellectual honesty. Look it up Arphy.

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CosmicChimp
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Message 78 of 139 (535971)
11-18-2009 11:45 PM
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11-18-2009 11:23 PM


Again, what in your athiest belief compels you to respect someone. Yes, you may respect someone, but you don't need to.
'Atheist belief' that's cute.
This is off topic. At least when it had to do with intellectual honesty it was still related; but my personal reasons for telling the truth to someone out of respect is a step too far OT.

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