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Author Topic:   Does the Book of Mormon contradict the Bible?
ochaye
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Message 302 of 352 (535662)
11-17-2009 8:23 AM
Reply to: Message 297 by Blue Jay
11-16-2009 11:20 PM


Re: What must I do ? Impossible!
quote:
If it was possible for Old Testament people to work their way to heaven
So Jesus died for nothing.

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ochaye
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Message 304 of 352 (535717)
11-17-2009 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 303 by kbertsche
11-17-2009 10:53 AM


Re: What must I do ? Impossible!
quote:
I thought this was a discussion of Mormonism vs the Bible?
Yes, but there's a Calvinist keeps trying to push his own heresy, which the Mormons gratefully accept because it gets them off the hook. Just one of those inevitable things about the 'net.
Very predictable timing, btw.
Edited by ochaye, : No reason given.
Edited by ochaye, : No reason given.

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ochaye
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Message 312 of 352 (535836)
11-18-2009 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 308 by Blue Jay
11-17-2009 10:37 PM


Re: What must I do ? Impossible!
'So Jesus died for nothing.'
quote:
This is, indeed, the implication of your argument.
So are you now saying that works could never justify? Because we both condemn Mormonism, if so.
Praise the Lord for your conversion.

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ochaye
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Message 315 of 352 (535856)
11-18-2009 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 314 by Blue Jay
11-18-2009 12:00 PM


Re: What must I do ? Impossible!
quote:
Since when did this exchange have anything to do with anything I've said?
Since you wrote that people could work their way to heaven. Then I reminded you about the atonement, and you changed your mind. Smart move, imv.
Of course it means you're no longer a Mormon, but think of the freedom you now have!

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ochaye
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Message 319 of 352 (535949)
11-18-2009 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 317 by Blue Jay
11-18-2009 8:27 PM


Re: What must I do ? Impossible!
quote:
Old Testament people were able to work themselves to heaven.
Do you agree with that, or not?
Straight answer.

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ochaye
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Message 324 of 352 (536103)
11-19-2009 8:53 PM
Reply to: Message 323 by Blue Jay
11-19-2009 8:34 PM


Re: Contradiction 5: Means of Salvation
quote:
I'm beginning to think that your position is that all pro-works interpretations are off-topic.
If they are on topic, what is the Mormon view on this?
Old Testament people were able to work themselves to heaven.
Does Mormonism agree with that, or not? Is there not a single Mormon out of 13 million to provide an answer?

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ochaye
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Message 327 of 352 (536110)
11-19-2009 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 325 by Blue Jay
11-19-2009 9:23 PM


Re: Contradiction 5: Means of Salvation
quote:
This was your statement, not mine.
That is not the truth, but it does not matter if no-one has made it. It is a statement. No Mormon has to answer the question about it, which is not directed to any particular poster. But, in a thread of this nature, on the basic issue of salvation, it is all but impossible to usefully proceed on topic unless the question is answered by a Mormon.
It seems to me that, if the question is not answered, readers will naturally assume that Mormonism holds that people before Christ were able to work their way to heaven. If Mormons are happy with that, we can come to a conclusion about the thread question.

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ochaye
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Message 336 of 352 (536192)
11-20-2009 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 330 by iano
11-20-2009 4:45 AM


Re: Contradiction 5: Means of Salvation
quote:
On the contrary. That statement was one made by you after you (heavily) edited a question posed by Blujay so as to make it look like a statement made by Bluejay.
That is a very serious allegation.
It requires proof.

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ochaye
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Message 338 of 352 (536217)
11-20-2009 1:14 PM
Reply to: Message 337 by Blue Jay
11-20-2009 11:56 AM


Re: Contradiction 5: Means of Salvation
quote:
But, you
That's the second personal pronoun.
Edited by ochaye, : No reason given.

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ochaye
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Message 340 of 352 (536222)
11-20-2009 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 339 by Admin
11-20-2009 1:30 PM


Re: Contradiction 5: Means of Salvation
The USA, Christophobic shit.
Maybe the oceans will join before long!

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