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xongsmith Member  Posts: 1218 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
One of my favorite Churchillisms went something like this: Woman (some duchess I think): If I was married to you, I'd give you poison! Winston: Madam, if I was married to you, I'd drink it! but this is off-topic.... - xongsmith, 5.7d
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cavediver Member  Posts: 4125 From: UK Joined: |
Madam, it has been, and she is.
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Rrhain Member (Idle past 105 days)  Posts: 5720 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: |
Modulous writes: quote: But you're neglecting the context. What was the question that he was asked? The quote, taken completely out of context and with the attitude being spun by the conservatives makes it seem as if Gore were trying to imply that he was spending all-nighters coding the TCP/IP stack while subsisting on nothing more than Hot Pockets and Mt. Dew. But instead, that wasn't what the context was. Instead, he was in an interview with Wolf Blitzer who had asked him about his accomplishments in the Senate and Gore gave a response that only makes sense when taken in the context of his work as a Senator. Wolf's question:
Gore's answer:
Only a fool would interpret this to mean that Gore was trying to claim intellectual credit. And, in fact, nobody bothered to think what he said was unusual until DAYS later when a Republican press release specifically and deliberately misquoted him. The High Performance Computing and Communication Act, the act that provided the funding to develop the nascent ARPAnet used by the Department of Defense into the Internet we have today, is commonly referred to as the "Gore Act." The reason you have a web browser at all is because of the Gore Act for it was the source of funding to create the Mosaic browser. Now, Vint Cert and Bob Kahn, the people who actually did write the TCP/IP stack, don't seem to think Gore was taking credit for their work and wrote an open letter soundly criticizing those who would imply otherwise. Other things Gore is reputed to have said but didn't: That he was the inspiration for Love Story. That he discovered Love Canal. That he was the one that brought up Willie Horton. Rrhain Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time. Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.
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Rrhain Member (Idle past 105 days) Posts: 5720 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: |
Humphrey Bogart never said, "Play it again, Sam!" The quote is, "You played it for her, you can play it for me. If she can stand it, I can. Play it!" Mae West never said, "Why don't you come up and see me some time?" The quote is, "Why don't you come up some time and see me." This misquote became so popular that she adopted it. Carl Sagan never said, "Billions and billions." Well, more accurately he never said it until everybody was making fun of him about it. "Billions and billions" was coined by Johnny Carson, a friend of Sagan's, who would parody him on The Tonight Show. Sagan admits that he did tend to hit the "b" in "billions" pretty hard during Cosmos, but that was primarly to ensure that people understood he was saying "billions" rather than "millions." He eventually wrote an article for Parade about this misquote where he finally said it. However, he said that as a scientist, he would never use such a phrase as "billions and billions" because it is so imprecise. Rrhain Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time. Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.
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Huntard Member  Posts: 2852 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: Member Rating: 9.3 |
Really? I just thought it was some sort of internet meme thing to refer to it as the internets, or teh interwebs, and stuff. I didn't think Gore actually said it like that, it was more my paraphrasing of what he supposedly said to make it sound extra stupid.  Thanks for the link! Edited by Huntard, : edited for more clarity
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Drosophilla Member Posts: 168 From: Doncaster, yorkshire, UK Joined: Member Rating: 9.5 |
Both your quote and that of Xongsmith were attributed to Churchill’s sparring with Lady Astor, but it may be apocryphal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Astor,_Viscountess_Astor (See end of wiki article). One quote I believe was true which always creases me up is the verbal spar between Churchill and George Bernard Shaw and conversed by telegram to each other: Shaw: Here are two tickets to the opening performance of my new play Winston old boy - bring a friend - if you have one. Churchill: Regret unable to attend first performance - will attend another - if there is one!
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xongsmith Member Posts: 1218 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Ahah! So we may be on topic afterall! - xongsmith, 5.7d
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Modulous Member (Idle past 50 days)  Posts: 5940 From: Manchester, UK Joined: |
I'm not neglecting context at all. That's why I made it clear that he said plenty more than just that, but was quoting the thing he actually said that was used to create the legend as per the thread topic. Huntard had already made it clear that he never actually claimed to have 'invented the internet', and since "Only a fool would interpret this to mean that Gore was trying to claim intellectual credit", I didn't think it merited saying a second time. Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.
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hERICtic Member (Idle past 460 days) Posts: 371 Joined: |
Even Gore himself poked fun at the misquote that he invented the internet: According to a 14 September 2000 article for CBS News, "Al Gore poked fun at himself and George W. Bush in an easygoing interview Thursday with David Letterman on CBS's Late Show." [8] He read Letterman's Top 10 List, which for this show was called: "Top Ten Rejected Gore - Lieberman Campaign Slogans." Number nine on the list was: "Remember, America, I gave you the Internet, and I can take it away!" [9] http://www.de-fact-o.com/fact_read.php?id=3 Edited by hERICtic, : No reason given.
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Theodoric Member  Posts: 3857 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.6 |
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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