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AZPaul3
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Message 6 of 271 (567436)
07-01-2010 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Huntard
07-01-2010 7:58 AM


Whoa! Great Huntard!
I could never get that to work. How you do that?
First, I suppose, is exactly who did you prey to? Was there any vision of this God in your mind at the time? What did he/she/it look like? What position did you take? Eyes open/closed? Knees or prostrate?
Details please?
Do some real science here. Keep a journal. Try it again to see if you can get another positive result.
BTW, what were you preying for? I hope it wasn't wasted on some namby-pamby stuff like healing a sick friend or help finding your car keys or something. A hot babe would be excellent! Was it a hot babe? Redhead?

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AZPaul3
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Message 14 of 271 (567572)
07-01-2010 5:14 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by sac51495
07-01-2010 4:03 PM


I haven't been on this forum very long, but from what I've seen, it just seems to be a meeting room for atheists, as I have seen very few proponents of the Christian faith on here...but maybe I'm wrong.
There are a number of productive religionist voices here. Where you may be seeing a preponderance is in their stand on evolution. I hope you are not confusing evolution with atheism.
Is this not precisely what you are doing? That is, changing God and his glory into something detectable, such as a fourfooted beast, and creeping things? If you really thought of God as God, you wouldn't even try to change His glory into something detectable, and corruptible!!
Let me put words in your mouth. Feel free to spit them back out if you find them wrong.
The OP is "Detecting God." This quest is looking for "evidence" in physical reality and is based on what you consider an errant world view that does not pre-suppose any god to exist. Thus it is looking in the wrong place with the wrong tools.
Aren't you, also, saying that god cannot be detected, that he is undetectable, and any attempt to detect god is not only doomed to failure but is a denial of faith and thus sinful?
Further, that any such "detection" is purely a subjective personal experience of the supernatural limited only to those whose world view has already pre-supposed a god by faith prior to the "detection?"

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AZPaul3
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Message 18 of 271 (567610)
07-01-2010 10:12 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by ICANT
07-01-2010 7:44 PM


Re: Detection of God
From that moment on I have never wanted a cigarette nor can I be around someone smoking.
Maybe it was your god answering your prayer. Who am I do deny your view.
More likely, however, while not having complete and utter control of brain over body in the sense that your brain can cause your body to defy the laws of physics, the brain is a wonderfully power instrument. Smoking, while a physical thing is also a mental need. Maybe this mental incident overwhelmed your physical need to smoke.
I have a friend who had a similar incident outside any religious connotation and successfully quit. The brain, when motivated, can be very powerful indeed, without the religious overtones.
Maybe your god answered your prayer or maybe your religious views helped focus the natural powers of your brain.
Based on the various evidences of psychology and the physiology of nicotine addiction I know which one I think it was but only you can make that call for yourself.
[abe] By the way. Such stories of answered prayer are called "confirmation bias." [/abe]
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