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Jeff Davis
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Message 1 of 43 (579896)
09-06-2010 2:22 PM


Greetings everyone,

Even though this is the first time I am on this forum, I have been researching issues on the creation/evolution controversy for over 30 years. My graduate research is in paleontology and fossil stratigraphy, although my studies have gone into many areas. Interestingly, I married into a fundamentalist Christian family. Once this community of believers found out who I was, I was blessed with literally hundreds of discussions/debates. A number of these encounters were quite intriguing.

I hope you will enjoy my contribution to this forum. My plan is to review past discussions before getting too actively involved.

All the best


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Message 3 of 43 (579900)
09-06-2010 2:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jeff Davis
09-06-2010 2:22 PM


Welcome aboard. It is always good to have new perspectives.
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Message 4 of 43 (579902)
09-06-2010 2:43 PM


Welcome!
Welcome!

My background is in archaeology, though I also studied fossil man and human osteology for my Ph.D. exams.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Jeff Davis
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Message 5 of 43 (579912)
09-06-2010 3:18 PM
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09-06-2010 2:43 PM


Re: Welcome!
Oh, I love archaeolgy!

My background is invertebrate paleonology and fossil stratigraphy with the Hamilton Group in the Devonian Period. It's not exciting as vertebrate paleo and dinos, but it does help me discuss problems with flood geology.


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Message 6 of 43 (579914)
09-06-2010 3:22 PM


Welcome home. Glad you're here.


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Message 7 of 43 (579916)
09-06-2010 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jeff Davis
09-06-2010 2:22 PM


Welcome to EvC!
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Message 8 of 43 (579921)
09-06-2010 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jeff Davis
09-06-2010 2:22 PM


Welcome Jeff,

I hope you find EvC to be as great an intellectual stimulant as I find it to be


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Message 9 of 43 (579926)
09-06-2010 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jeff Davis
09-06-2010 2:22 PM


Hi, Jeff.

Welcome to EvC!

If "Jeff" is short for "Jefferson," you and Artemis Entreri (another EvC member) may get along pretty well.

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Jeff Davis writes:

Interestingly, I married into a fundamentalist Christian family. Once this community of believers found out who I was, I was blessed with literally hundreds of discussions/debates.

Anyone with this kind of attitude must be exceptionally mellow and thick-skinned. We could use some more of that here.


-Bluejay (a.k.a. Mantis, Thylacosmilus)

Darwin loves you.


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Message 10 of 43 (579932)
09-06-2010 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jeff Davis
09-06-2010 2:22 PM


Greetings and welcome aboard. I'm looking forward to reading from your vantage point.
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Jeff Davis
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Message 11 of 43 (579934)
09-06-2010 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Blue Jay
09-06-2010 4:24 PM


No, it's just Jeff.

Speaking of being thick skinned, my wife's uncle once called me a Satan worshipper in front of a crowded church. He got a little angry with me. He claimed I did not believe in the "plain truth" of a literal interpretation of Genesis. I replied, "Which particular literal interpretation are you referring to?" He said, "The most literal". I then said, "The biblical verse, 'go forth and multiply and replenish the earth' was actually first commanded to Adam (and not Noah). To not accept that God told Adam to "refill" the earth (thus, Adam was not the first) means to not accept the most literal interpretation."

Not that I fully embrace this particular interpretation, but I am not too fond of restrictive literal interpretations.


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Message 12 of 43 (580114)
09-07-2010 8:05 PM


If "Jeff" is short for "Jefferson," you and Artemis Entreri (another EvC member) may get along pretty well.

lol that's funny.

welcome to the shooting gallery Jeff Davis.


  
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Message 13 of 43 (580127)
09-07-2010 8:59 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Jeff Davis
09-06-2010 5:49 PM


Hi Jeff. H hearty welcome to EvC from a 7plus year EvC fundi-Christian. I see you married into a fundi family, but appear not to be a fundi yourself. I'll add you to my prayer list.

Perhaps we can get up a thread on how primates figure in a watery planet, dark and void, having no atmosphere or sun and why Adam, alleged first man had to come from the dust..


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.
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Message 14 of 43 (580128)
09-07-2010 9:03 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Buzsaw
09-07-2010 8:59 PM


Stories
Perhaps we can get up a thread on how primates figure in a watery planet, dark and void, having no atmosphere or sun and why Adam, alleged first man had to come from the dust..

Fiction and mythology, eh? Great! I love a good story.

The "Lord of the Rings" and "Clan of the Cave Bear" series are my favorites.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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Jeff Davis
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Message 15 of 43 (580133)
09-07-2010 9:39 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Buzsaw
09-07-2010 8:59 PM


Hi Buzsaw,

Just by looking at these replies, this forum is beautifully diverse. This is awesome.

Considering primates are made up of 60% water consisting of the exact chemical proportions as the oceans, these conversations should be worthwhile. Also, since the term "fundamentalist" finds its origins from "The Fundamentals" published in 1910-1915 focusing upon the Five Fundamentals, I would place myself in your camp. The difference is that the five fundamentals has nothing to do with the reality of nature. This is where we most likely part ways.

Edited by Jeff Davis, : No reason given.


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