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slevesque
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Message 8 of 43 (579921)
09-06-2010 3:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jeff Davis
09-06-2010 2:22 PM


Welcome Jeff,
I hope you find EvC to be as great an intellectual stimulant as I find it to be

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Message 19 of 43 (580166)
09-08-2010 12:20 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Jeff Davis
09-07-2010 9:39 PM


Hi Jeff,
Considering primates are made up of 60% water consisting of the exact chemical proportions as the oceans
Are you talking about the chemical proportion of our blood versus the oceans ?
If so, you should take a look at this
Element Blood Seawater
Sodium 3220 10800
Chlorine 3650 19400
Potassium 200 392
Calcium 50 411
Magnesium 27 1290
Phosphorus 36 0.09
Iron 1 0.004
Copper 1 0.001
Zinc 1.1 0.005
Chromium 1.1 0.002
Bromine 4 67
Fluorine 1.1 1.3
Boron 1 5
Selenium 0.9 0.0001
(In mg/litre) Sorry I wasn't able to put more spaces between the numbers.
This isn't similar at all.
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slevesque
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Message 26 of 43 (580241)
09-08-2010 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by Chiroptera
09-08-2010 7:23 AM


Wow, let's stop studying Hieroglyphs as well then, I guess. If it's impossible for us to understand their intended meaning even if we can read them ...

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slevesque
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Message 27 of 43 (580244)
09-08-2010 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by bluescat48
09-08-2010 12:53 AM


Red-blooded evidence - creation.com
They themselves reference to:
Burtis, C.A., Ashwood, E.R., Clinical Chemistry, W.B. Saunders Company, Philadelphia, 1994 edition.
Baselt, R.C., and Cravey, R.H., Disposition of toxic drugs and chemicals in Man, Year Book Medical Publishers, Inc, Chicago, 1989 edition.
For blood chemistry, and:
The New Encyclopedia Britannica, 15:925, 15th Ed., 1992.
for seawater chemistry.
Anyways, as they say in the article, this argument should make little sense even for a proponent of evolution. Amphibians came out of the water like 350M years ago. Does anyone expect that seawater back then will have the same chemistry as right now ? Surely not, so whoever thought of comparing our blood with current water proportions had a flawed reasoning from the outset.

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slevesque
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Message 29 of 43 (580268)
09-08-2010 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by Jeff Davis
09-08-2010 11:51 AM


Hi Jeff,
You'll have to explain more explicitly this statement:
Additionally, all tetrapods find their origins with lobe-finned riverine fish, so the composition should have less salt just as your statistics show.
Because the relationship between the two isn't evident for me at least.
I would suggest, however, that if you want us to discuss this particular subject you should make a new thread in the 'Proposed new topic' section. As this is not the thread to start a full-scale discussion.
Edited by slevesque, : No reason given.

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slevesque
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Message 36 of 43 (580345)
09-08-2010 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by Chiroptera
09-08-2010 6:26 PM


Well you said even if we do read it, we can't know what the author intended to say. This is saying that trying to understand the text is useless. Your basis for this was that the author died two millenia ago.
I used an analog situation where the author also died two millenia ago, implying that your logic would also mean we couldn't know what the author intended. And what is the point of studying it if we can't understand it ?

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slevesque
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Message 43 of 43 (580486)
09-09-2010 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by Chiroptera
09-09-2010 7:41 AM


Ok, so it has nothing to do with the age of the text, except more age means maybe more opportunities for it to be changed. But you need to have evidence that it has been change, just because it's old doesn't mean it was changed, or if the author is still alive.
I agree with your position here, but I feel you changed the goalpost a bit on this one.

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