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Author Topic:   Obama supports Ground Zero mosque. Religious freedom or is he being too PC?
jar
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Message 199 of 406 (576581)
08-24-2010 4:51 PM


Freedom of Speech does not preclude reasonable restraint of speech by the speaker.
The right to say something does not imply that the subject is worth saying.

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Message 214 of 406 (576832)
08-25-2010 8:42 PM
Reply to: Message 212 by riVeRraT
08-25-2010 8:31 PM


Re: Opening date of the Mosque
I was assuming that this particular group of Muslims would be under the watchful eye of homeland security, and other nay-sayers.
I'm sorry but why the hell should "this particular group of Muslims would be under the watchful eye of homeland security"?

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Message 232 of 406 (577160)
08-27-2010 11:09 AM
Reply to: Message 231 by onifre
08-27-2010 11:04 AM


onifre writes:
You misunderstand. I mean fair as in everyone, every group, religion, institution, etc., will have to deal with their feelings being hurt, because no punches are held back.
That was called vaudeville and I was lucky enough to have experienced it.

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Message 235 of 406 (577164)
08-27-2010 11:13 AM
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08-27-2010 11:11 AM


Vaudeville hung on until the fifties, maybe even early sixties in Baltimore.

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jar
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Message 270 of 406 (578896)
09-02-2010 11:47 PM
Reply to: Message 265 by riVeRraT
09-02-2010 11:24 PM


Re: Opening date of the Mosque
1, building a shrine to celebrate the terrorist attacks on ground zero is not a far fetched idea. That obviously has nothing to do with religion, and shouldn't be allowed.
Damn good thing no one is doing that then, so that is certain;y not a reason to investigate them.
BUT, I also see nothing wrong with some group doing that if they wanted to.
There is a thing called the Constitution you know and it covers Freedom of Speech.
It is not the speech that we like and approve of that we should fight to protect.
2, where the hell did all that money come from?
Where does any development money come from? Why should this group be under the kindly gaze of Homeland Security just because they are doing urban renewal?
I find it hard to discern the objectives of any religious group jar, including Christians. Religion can be a mask. While there is a separation of church and state, that doesn't excluded them from the law.
HUH?

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jar
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Message 293 of 406 (578991)
09-03-2010 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 273 by riVeRraT
09-02-2010 11:55 PM


Re: Opening date of the Mosque
You are sacrificing our safety, and our freedom just to dis-agree with me. That is what it seems. I agree that there is plenty of hate groups in America (as I pointed out already) and it is well within their right to do so. But we are at war jar. And when you are at war, you don't let the enemy set up camp in your fucking house.
The only significant threat to the United States I see is statements like that. If you think we are at War, then we have already lost. If you think safety is worth destroying the Constitution then we have already lost.

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jar
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Message 304 of 406 (579006)
09-03-2010 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 302 by riVeRraT
09-03-2010 10:16 AM


Who is the enemy?
I don't think we are at war, I know it. What I don't know is, who exactly is our enemy. What uniform does he wear? Where does he live?
Well, based on that I'd say that the enemy is the average US Citizen.
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Message 307 of 406 (579027)
09-03-2010 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 305 by Coyote
09-03-2010 11:31 AM


Re: Who is the enemy?
I'm sorry but exactly how is that person "The Enemy"?

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jar
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Message 309 of 406 (579030)
09-03-2010 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 308 by Coyote
09-03-2010 11:47 AM


Re: Who is the enemy?
Well, I can't. Sorry Charlie.
The guy may well be a bad person, may well be someone that the Dutch or even the Australian authorities might want to watch, but he is certainly no threat to the US.

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Message 311 of 406 (579047)
09-03-2010 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 310 by Rahvin
09-03-2010 12:19 PM


Re: Who is the enemy?
See Message 304.

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Message 343 of 406 (580002)
09-07-2010 8:20 AM
Reply to: Message 340 by frako
09-07-2010 7:43 AM


Re: Listen
Just a heads-up.
There is already a Mosque near Ground Zero, in fact has been since around the time the towers were built, maybe even before the Towers were built. It's really small though, so small that during prayers many of the congregation cannot get inside and end up spreading their prayer rugs on the sidewalk and street. This has been true for many decades and I have personally witnessed the Muslims there.
If you have Google maps search for "Masjid Manhattan". Zoom in and you can see how close it is.

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Message 354 of 406 (580056)
09-07-2010 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 352 by Rahvin
09-07-2010 12:14 PM


Re: Koran burning in Fl
That is just another great example of the Christian Cult of Ignorance at its finest. They are so ignorant that they cannot even see the absolute joke that the name of their organization and their behavior create.

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Message 358 of 406 (580061)
09-07-2010 1:20 PM
Reply to: Message 356 by Coyote
09-07-2010 1:14 PM


Re: But the point is
Running airplanes into buildings and a host of other actions from various Muslim strongholds around the world have caused a lot of the problems Muslims are now facing in the US.
And US and Western behavior caused problems that led to such actions.

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jar
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Message 380 of 406 (580300)
09-08-2010 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 375 by riVeRraT
09-08-2010 7:07 AM


Re: Listen
Also, what the real story is is that the person among many others contributed to a charity that was later identified as being connected with Hamas (IIRC).
As usual, Faux News is just making shit up.

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Message 391 of 406 (580473)
09-09-2010 8:45 AM
Reply to: Message 387 by riVeRraT
09-09-2010 7:04 AM


Re: wtf
Until the US realizes that it was US behavior that did lead to 9-11, I doubt that we can expect less then what he outlined.
The first step has to be the US honestly evaluating its own behavior.

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