Return to Immortality -- There is no death by natural causes

-If Evolution were right then the brain would evolve and
man would gradually think more by himself rather than just based on the orders being received, just as the Roman soldiers did 2 thousand years ago,because they decided to use bullet proof shields during the invasions;And then there would have been approximately 70% less casualties of soldiers during the invasion of Normandy.-Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update

So am I to understand that you are arguing against evolution based on Operation Overlord during World War 2 not involving bulletproof shields for individual soldiers?The desire to avoid being shot by a 7.92x57mm Mauser cartridge moving at 2,477 ft/s was well known, but unfortunately such a firearm was capable of penetrating any armor a soldier could carry. Even "bulletproof" vests and shields available today would be torn to shreds by such high powered weaponry. Reference photos below: (middle cartridge is the one for this particular common machine gun) Furthermore, even if such shields were available and not used you would seemingly be arguing that the Christian god was responsible. Surely you wouldn't be arguing that the prayers of the Christians involved in the operation were ignored, right?But even ignoring all that, I still don't see how this has any relation to the original post's claims about attaining immortality through proper diet (apparently solely of fruit, it is rather unclear). It may be related to EvC's general goal, but specific evolutionary challenges appear to be off topic within Faith and Belief. In addition, even if evolution were proved incorrect that wouldn't in and of itself be support for creation; it would be just as reasonable to consider the development of life's diversity to be the result of some as yet unknown process.Instead I would like to address what I consider a more pertinent topic: Your current mental health. I mean this in the most sincere way possible, and apologize for my earlier joking about Dr. Strangelove. Recent posts within this thread have been disturbingly erratic, rambling, and largely nonsensical. Were I to encounter such behavior in person I would consider it appropriate to contact medical assistance.It is also quite possible that you are simply trolling, or too young to put together coherent and meaningful posts. Regardless of my private opinion of your intentions, I don't believe that you are following the community rules of staying on topic (even within your own thread), attempting to stay narrowly focused, or supporting your points with evidence and/or reasoned argumentation. You also appear to be engaged in bare assertions or the inclusion of material not of your own without attribution; where did you get the prediction of 70% fewer casualties during the invasion of Normandy?It appears that moderation is turning a blind eye toward this thread, but that is no excuse to use this area as a mental waste outlet. Please address these concerns if you intend to continue the discussion.

- -Friend, what's it that afflicts you?These texts are in the appropriate place, that is the belief zone, since many have been taught to work up the belief that the death by old age is unavoidable.A variety of clues are found use of incompatible food is the real cause of death by old age.-Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update

Cite?If you are unfamiliar with the term, it is a request to back up your unsubstantiated claim with references. In this case I would like to know what exact experience you are talking about, why exactly you would conclude from it that incompatible foods lead to old age, and why you believe that immortality through proper diet is attainable.

so you belive that peaple that are Fruitarianists should theoreticly live forever or at least have a longer lifespanalthough i have no data on their lifespan i sencierly doubt that there is a significant increase in their lifespan although they do eat fruits that come from other trees that are suggested here there should be some increase in lifespan that would have been noticed by now at least if your hypothesis holds any water it should have been noticed.if you do intend to eat only fruit you should be aware Nutritional deficiencies like calcium, protein, iron, zinc, vitamin D, most B vitamins (especially B12), and essential fatty acids.
Vitamin B12, a bacterial product, is not found in any fruits.Edited by frako, : No reason given.

-Estimate time to initiate the reduction of intragastric acidity: 3 and a half weeks
Approximate time to change the stability of the nervous system: 49 days Samples of compatible fruits,
1st. Noni-fruit (Morinda Citrifolia) 2nd. fig, 3rd. avocado, 4th. persimmon, 5th. peach, 6th. orange, 7th. jabuticaba, 8th. tropical mango, 9th. tropical tangerine, 10th. pomegranate, 11th. tamarindo, 12th. jackfruit, 13th. acerola, 14th. plum and others.- Is immortality attainable? Immortality is not something that a person can attain nor something to be done so that he--she might become immortal.

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Immortality is simply stopping from dying by stopping from eating incompatible food. In regards to death by old age, a person is already immortal and will not die of old age as long as hisher body will not continue to produce the type of intragastric acidity required to digest the incompatible foods. When stopping from giving continuous sequence to a search for knowledge of inconsistent food then there is a gradual reduction of the acidity that decomposes the Human living substances and a deceleration of the aging process;because of the fact that when a person solely eats fruits, and only the compatible ones, then a row of composed nutrient substances that are intrinsically Human do not need to be released and decomposed so that the digestive system can produce the precise type of gastric juice that is required to digest a dead flesh or regular food. 1st Ascertained Fact — Continuous decomposition of living substances that are intrinsically Human. — The initial instruction clears up that in the day one eats from what is incompatible then that person will be [gradually] dying. That gradual death is demonstrated by the quality of gastric acidity the Human body produces because the more living substance is decomposing then the more death-smelling the acidity of that juice will be.When you eat what is dead you are making that into what is living,
However, in order for that conversion to take place, it takes the waste of something that is living; a properly Human substance that can not be replaced by the consumption of that same food. 2nd Ascertained Fact — Impossibility of replacing, by consumption of regular food, the precise Human substances being decomposed to digest that same incompatible food. — The root of the word restaurant, meaning that which restores, does indicate that by eating regular food then a restoration of the living substances that are properly Human would allegedly take place. However, it is not possible to remedy or restore, by new consumptions of regular food, the living nutrient substances that are intrinsically Human as those of the medulla oblongata.

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A knowledge of good and evil consequences. The olive tree introduced to man the desire to know the food again and again, of a constant manner and in a continuous sequence. A form of knowledge that the Human body was not made to retain or resist since the irresistible food can only be known and retained for a brief moment when knowing the food again. Food that is perishable and mortal gives a knowledge that does not remain and it is a good thing that it does not endure; it makes to die because it can only be retained and known by the release and decomposition of the living substance of nutrient property that was composed and made to be intrinsically Human.

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From the fruits of the solid trees you can freely eat - The term solid tree is used in the translation to make distinction between actual trees --e.g. avocado tree-- and plants that are palm-trees or of soft trunk. — Freely — Human body was designed to remain free from deseases and death of natural causes.

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Except one — The olive is a fruit, however, it is also oil for food; usual cooking oil. Equally the taste of the olive oil was not made to be mixed or combined with the fruits of the other solid trees. The olives were made to be oil for routine food.

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From the dust — The nutrients of the routine food come from the dust of the ground. You become what you eat. After 49 years old the aging process accelerates because it is not possible to profit from eating the nutrient properties which the regular food is made of since the Human body was made of the same properties from the dust of the ground.

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From the solid tree — Nutrients of the compatible fruits do not come from the dust of the ground. They are filtered essences produced by the solid tree. The extension of her trunk is made up of millions of little bitty tubes that do filter and separate the nutrients out. On this, the fruit of the solid tree is a property given exclusively by the tree.

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I see you still have no evidence or references. All you have are assertions. Why should we believe any of your mumbo-jumbo? Who are you that we should blindly accept what you say? Evidence and references would strengthen your argument immensely.

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Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

How much of this experiment have you actually performed, and what are your controls and testing methods? For instance, how are you measuring the acidity of your gastric system and from what points? What evidence do you have that gastric acidity relates in any meaningful way to longevity? How are you measuring the "stability" of the nervous system?Edited by Phage0070, : No reason given.

but from where would you get stuff like calcium, protein, iron, zinc, vitamin D, most B vitamins (especially B12), and essential fatty acids.
Vitamin B12, a bacterial product, is not found in any fruits.the body needs this stuff too and its not present in fruits

- -The chemist by whom the Lysergic acid diethylamide was discovered could not have had any references given about experiencing LSD during the first time he accidentally tasted it, even so the lack of references is inherent to the first time discoveries.The more recent a new discovery, the more distant the probability of any reference to come into existence prior to the first time a person will do the proposed new experience.-Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update

Quite the contrary: had Dr. Hoffman conducted his later research into entheogens sooner, he would have immediately recognized what was happening.From wiki:"Hofmann became director of the natural products department at Sandoz and continued studying hallucinogenic substances found in Mexican mushrooms and other plants used by the aboriginal people. This led to the synthesis of psilocybin, the active agent of many "magic mushrooms."[8] Hofmann also became interested in the seeds of the Mexican morning glory species Rivea corymbosa, the seeds of which are called Ololiuhqui by the natives. He was surprised to find the active compound of Ololiuhqui, ergine (lysergic acid amide), to be closely related to LSD.

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Dost thou prate, rogue?
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Real things always push back.
-William James

- -Recognition in immediate time does not mean he already had any references about experiencing LSD.

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- -No experiment is in progress unless you have the means to know with certainty that the experience is indeed in progress.Otherwise all of us would have to believe in the word of man rather than getting rid of believing since assurance and knowledge of the truth do completely dispense with the need to work up a belief.-

If I can glean any meaning from this word salad, I think you answered "no".So you have a theory which you have not tested in any way. How can you honestly claim to know that any of your claims are truthful if you have never tested them in any way?

Uh huh. Sure.Mind your shopping cart on that curb...

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Dost thou prate, rogue?
-Cassio

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Real things always push back.
-William James