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Author Topic:   This website challenges me to do my homework
Dr Adequate
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Message 16 of 28 (583685)
09-28-2010 2:11 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Artemis Entreri
09-28-2010 1:46 PM


Re: for reals?
you gave a perfect example, i rest my case.
So you say that ... implying that people are "haters" (a word you introduced into this discussion by calling people "haters") ... is a "perfect example" ... of being one ... (thereby implicitly calling Omnivorous a "hater") ...
You don't see ... something ... a little ... odd ... about that?
Or perhaps you self-identify as a "hater"? --- in which case you will have achieved a certain measure of logical consistency.

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Message 17 of 28 (583706)
09-28-2010 3:11 PM


I meant to put this here:

  
Son
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Message 18 of 28 (583707)
09-28-2010 3:15 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Dr Adequate
09-28-2010 2:11 PM


Re: for reals?
While I agree with you, it's not exactly the topic of this thread. We have the OP who seems genuinely interested in learning, let's not scare her away by reacting to name calling, ok? I mean, it's so rare to see someone like that who arrives, so let's try to give a good impression.
To Barbara, I'm glad you found a valuable thing in this site. I myself learned quite a lot there, especially about documentation and argumentation. Many on this site takes the time to research the claims, making it easier for laymen to check sources and argument and teaching us to do the same.
I know this very thread may not give a very good impression but the threads in other forums are actually much more satisfying in regards to our pursuits in knowledge. The thing (that you may have noticed) is that the "coffe house" and "free for all" are not very regulated because it's their purpose but moderators do a very good job in the other forums to keep the discussion focused and well sourced. So don't let the less than sophisticated discussion in this thread put you off from this site and look in the other threads for the informations and discussions that interest you.

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Message 19 of 28 (583714)
09-28-2010 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by barbara
09-28-2010 2:36 AM


This website can be quite intimidating to a "laymen" who is trying to figure life out on their own. It can piss you off at times which is why I go do my homework and research it more thoroughly. I have learned a lot from the members of this site and I just wanted to say Thank You!
You're welcome!!
I often find that the things that piss me off the most are the things I enjoy researching the most. Perhaps this is why I tend to torture myself with the hardest crossword puzzles I can find.
We are certainly a contentious bunch here at EvC, but I guarantee that we (and I mean all of us) would have a great time over your beverage of choice.

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onifre
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Message 20 of 28 (583737)
09-28-2010 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Artemis Entreri
09-28-2010 10:06 AM


Re: for reals?
seems like a bunch of haters to me
OMG, I knw rite? Lik all these smrt guys saying watevr abt watevr and Im all lik watevrrrrr!!! Talk to da hand bitchzzz. Haterz cant c me anywayzzzz.
- Mimi "Shorty" Rodriguez

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 21 of 28 (583848)
09-29-2010 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Son
09-28-2010 3:15 PM


Re: for reals?
what another great example, one person! yeah one person stays on topic to the OP; while almost everyone else jumps on the hate bandwagon.
this is just a place for shit talking if i have ever seen one.

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subbie
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Message 22 of 28 (583854)
09-29-2010 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Artemis Entreri
09-29-2010 10:31 AM


Re: for reals?
Since you're the one who started the hate bandwagon, you're hardly in a position to cast aspersions.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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dwise1
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Message 23 of 28 (583855)
09-29-2010 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Artemis Entreri
09-29-2010 10:31 AM


Re: for reals?
what another great example, one person! yeah one person stays on topic to the OP;
Wrong, hypocrite! (since you are the one who started the talk of haters)
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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 24 of 28 (583877)
09-29-2010 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by dwise1
09-29-2010 10:45 AM


Re: for reals?
LOL! Yah for reals
there is nothing hypocritical about what I stated. I never said I was not amongst the haterz, in fact this fact about this place drove me here.
I good friend of mine used to post here, I would always see him on this site and I was like, man you still on that forum with the horrible white text!?! he said it was great, so I started Lurking here, after seeing that the idea was NOT to debate with creationists, but to merely tease them, ridicule them, and make fun of them, I though this place is hilarious and could be a lot of fun, so i joined up.
hate drives this site, i just admit it, that is all that is different about me and some of the posters.

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barbara
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Message 25 of 28 (583881)
09-29-2010 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by dwise1
09-28-2010 11:35 AM


Thanks dwise1
I generally do not feel I must pick a side evolution/creationists for it keeps you in a "box" and any evidence can not viewed objectively when trying to figure out life and its processes.
I like this site because each side offers difference interpretations of the scientific data and what I see no one side is completely right in how they present it. I generally like to evaluate the whole picture because there is pieces of truth that they all share and that is what I am looking for to determine my own conclusions of what life is all about.

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onifre
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Message 26 of 28 (583943)
09-29-2010 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by Artemis Entreri
09-29-2010 12:52 PM


Re: for reals?
the idea was NOT to debate with creationists, but to merely tease them, ridicule them, and make fun of them
On a serious note, I've seen some excellent debates here between creationist and those who understand science. RAZD, Percy, Wounded King, Taq, Bluejay, Dwise1, Granny, to name a few, always debate the topic and treat the opponent with respect.
Some are assholes but it's an aggressive debate site where both sides can bash each other, what do you expect? The only difference is, more people understand science (ie. biology, chemistry, physics, astronomy) rather than subscribe to psuedo-scienctific nonsense (ie. creationism, astrology, alchemy) - so one side definitely has more supporters than the other.
But fuck, given how shitty the US school system is, the fact that the majority of the people are on the side of science should be looked at as positive.
The fact is, creationism, astrology and alchemy truly are subjects to mock and ridicule IF anyone of those is actually trying to discredit science and scientific research.
Think of it this way, how long into a discussion/debate with someone who denies the holocaust took place would you go before telling them they're just bone-headed idiots who are being ignorant by choice? Not long, at least I wouldn't take long.
In the same sense, debating creationsist can reach this level of frustration. So it's not as though the mocking, ridicule and teasing are unwarrented. My question is, why do you care? You're not a creationist, I assume you're not into astrology or alchemy either. So why side with people who by choice would rather be stupid than get educated?
- Oni
Edited by onifre, : No reason given.

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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 27 of 28 (583955)
09-29-2010 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by onifre
09-29-2010 3:10 PM


Re: for reals?
In the same sense, debating creationsist can reach this level of frustration. So it's not as though the mocking, ridicule and teasing are unwarrented. My question is, why do you care? You're not a creationist, I assume you're not into astrology or alchemy either. So why side with people who by choice would rather be stupid than get educated?
1. I don't really care this is all for fun.
2. I didn't realize I was siding with anyone, here. Most of the time I'm playing devil's advocate.

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menes777
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Message 28 of 28 (584172)
09-30-2010 5:10 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Artemis Entreri
09-29-2010 3:41 PM


Re: for reals?
I find it ironic that a person complaining about hatred having the avatar of an assassin.

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