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frako
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Message 24 of 102 (586616)
10-14-2010 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by matt101
10-14-2010 8:44 AM


Re: EVOLUTION, FORGET IT
Pegs law now should be put into prospective, since theere is a GOD
yes and that god is the ALMIGHTY SPAGETTI MONSTER or as i like to call him NOODELS.
as for all the other crap you wrote, try reading what evolution actualy is and what the theory says.

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Message 44 of 102 (586647)
10-14-2010 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by matt101
10-14-2010 10:46 AM


Re: Fact
Even if monkeys have diffrent protiens, when they evolved, some of us, would be immune to HIV, and some would not, in this case we are not immune to HIV, none of us, chicken pox is totally diffrent, a WBC virus, is what it is, affects the body in high levels of concentration, that is why we don't even have a vaccine for it yet, like chicken pox, i was immune too. If monkeys are so similiar, we should be able to reverse hair growth, to be ultra hairy, and be able to pop out our faces by not eating the food that caused evolution as athiest must believe, since it is obsurd with evolution. A human can not turn into a diffrent animal, by eating, or doing something diffrent that is against thier nature, we can't fly, or do alot of stuff animals do. How do you explain other animals with evolution, with being able to breath under water, what makes that happen??? that is a aquired natural characterisitc, that alone says evolution is not true, and that there is a GOD.
Even if monkeys have diffrent protiens, when they evolved, some of us, would be immune to HIV, and some would not, in this case we are not immune to HIV, none of us, chicken pox is totally diffrent, a WBC virus, is what it is, affects the body in high levels of concentration, that is why we don't even have a vaccine for it yet, like chicken pox, i was immune too. If monkeys are so similiar, we should be able to reverse hair growth, to be ultra hairy, and be able to pop out our faces by not eating the food that caused evolution as athiest must believe, since it is obsurd with evolution. A human can not turn into a diffrent animal, by eating, or doing something diffrent that is against thier nature, we can't fly, or do alot of stuff animals do. How do you explain other animals with evolution, with being able to breath under water, what makes that happen??? that is a aquired natural characterisitc, that alone says evolution is not true, and that there is a GOD.
first of all we did not evolve from monkeys we evolved from a pre monkey typ creature that split in to monkey, ape and human predecessors. Secondly the typ of food you eat does not efect things on such a scale granted if a species starts to eat diferent foods their digestive systems will evolve to acomodate that typ of food better though tis does not happen instantainusly it happens over a long time and lots of generations. i think you do not know what evolution is and you think things happen in an instant they dont it takes time and lots of generations and mutations. as for the hair part well there are people that have fur problems their whole body is coverd by furr like hair the gen that regulates this mutates.

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frako
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Message 46 of 102 (586650)
10-14-2010 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by matt101
10-14-2010 9:52 AM


Re: EVOLUTION, FORGET IT
Yes they do believe this, no matter what science entails, is utterly impossible, the evolution document show believes this, they said our brains, when we were monkeys worked together, and got larger, and started to take better care of ourselves, eating better, thus making the big evolution from ape to human, is nonsence.
sure it is nonsence if you don know what they are talking about. are you searyussly saying that your version god did it is not nonsense cmmon we live in the 21 century not in the stone age, lightning strikes did god do it or did it hapen by the laws of nature.
one one side you have tones uppon tones of evidence for evolution proven tested, observed. on the other side you have god, unproven, untested, unobserved. and you still say evolution is made up and god is real who is talking nonsence.

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frako
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Message 49 of 102 (586656)
10-14-2010 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by matt101
10-14-2010 11:03 AM


Re: EVOLUTION, FORGET IT
Re: EVOLUTION, FORGET IT
Yes it does, if you believe in evolution, you don't believe in GOD, you know why? It states in the bible that GOD created each in his own image.
i do not belive in god i am an atheist. i have not seen god, nor have i seen any evidence for a god so through the aplication of logic there is no god if some evidence should come up then i might change my mind.
evrything can be explained by the laws of nature from the big bang to evolution, if we do not have an explenation yet we do not jump to god did it, we look for anwsers in nature first.
as for god making us in his own image do you have supper powers, can you split an ocean, can you create something out of nothing, are you all knowing. the image is very far off from where i am standing i do not have any of those super powers. from gods point of wive does he bleed, does he die, feel pain, grow old, get hungry, be wrong, cant do something. again a bit off the image right.

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frako
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Message 50 of 102 (586658)
10-14-2010 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by matt101
10-14-2010 11:09 AM


Re: Fact
you realy need to go back to scool and brush up on evolution.
can a lizard start giving birth insted of laying eggs yes he can it is happening right now in australia.
can moths suddenly be all blyck in a poluted region where the dark collor gives them an advantage of not being seen, yes they can
can mosquitos migrate in to a subway and start drinking human blood insted of bird blod what they only drunk before. yes they can in london over 150 years.
can mice morroned on an island start to look diferent, act different, and their genetic makeup be different than their ancestors from europe well they can and it happend.
the small changes amount to big changes during a large period of time.

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frako
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Message 78 of 102 (586693)
10-14-2010 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by matt101
10-14-2010 11:37 AM


Re: EVOLUTION, FORGET IT
What? Eve tempted adam, God doesn't trust all of us, the upcoming battle, the devil will try to take over the world, he has to seek out who he can trust, we bleed, and all of those things, since we betrayed him, God don't because he is the maker. Where do you think we came from?? in mid air, something had to be produced in the first place to make something, telling you now isn't bacteria or space matter.
What? Eve tempted adam, God doesn't trust all of us, the upcoming battle, the devil will try to take over the world, he has to seek out who he can trust, we bleed, and all of those things, since we betrayed him, God don't because he is the maker. Where do you think we came from?? in mid air, something had to be produced in the first place to make something, telling you now isn't bacteria or space matter.
rofl, when the devil comes will he only take over erth or other planets too?
Where do you think we came from??
im not 100% shure how the big bang went bang but after that mattter coled down condensed formed plantets stars ....., 4.5 BILLION years ago the erth formed and after that the first amino acids where fromed they could have formed on erth or where brought here by meteorites. and then some of these amino acids combined to form the first life after that evolution took over as the first cells divided they did not divide in to exsact copies of them selves the copies that where beter suited for the enviorment had a better chance of dividing more times than the ones that did not. preaty soon the cells. Son the cells combined in to groups of cells that was the first multicelular organism and aggain trough evolution the better copies lived one the worse ones died off. Some ones used photosyinthesys to get their energy frome some used other means others fed uppon the other 2 soon the oceans where filled whit life plant like life forms could live on the ground too and trough evolution they where the first to populate the land, after that the first amphibian's evolved they could use the dry land to get away from predators, and soon they evolved and lost their wather breathing methods, trough process of evolution the land was filled whit life and after a few chatastrophies that almost destroyed all life once up to 95% of all life on the planet the first human like mamal had evolved using his brain he had the advantage over the other animals, and the smartest of this pree man had an advantage over the other ones of the same species using his brain power he developed tools, the first language,... all giving him more of an advantage preaty soon he evolved in to a homo sapiens or a modern human and populated the globe, he then invented systems of govement the first where religions animizm, totemizm ... gods, some of the individuals gained power over the others by inventing reasons why things happen so when lightning strucke thor, zevs and similar gods where born the more man could not explain the more gods where made some did not want to offer so much to so many gods so they invented one supreme god that did all of it one of the first trie in this was by a egyptian pharao it did not work out and after his death the old gods where worshiped aggain. at roughly the same time some jews invented their god they told stories about their god and so one wrote them down worshiped him ... and then a remarcable individual came about somewhere in india his name was Siddharta or buddha he invented an atheistic religion whit no gods the religion is still alive today and 2000 years after him came a nother one named jesus his death started a whole series of new religions that where then combined in to christianety as you know today, 700 years after that mohamed formed a new reiligon the muslim religion, and after much ware suffering ... that these 2 religions braught man kind my parrents where borne and after a few years gave birth to me.
and that is where i come from a bit short if you have any questions just ask.

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frako
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Message 86 of 102 (586718)
10-14-2010 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by matt101
10-14-2010 1:22 PM


Re: Get this
Hypothetically
Despite phenotype (physical) characteristic changes’ over time, sexual reproduction with the same species, doesn’t say anything.
To create a new kind of species needs to be within its own kind, so nothing on earth can be mated, that is an animal to produce a human. That is why people believe monkeys are the ones, since they share most of our DNA. Since monkeys are immune to HIV, when they evolve, we also would be immune, all of us. Immunity is permanent, it is today, and that doesn’t change with the human body. So to believe in evolution don’t get.
How can the earth just produce itself anyways, that is a flat out obvious reason to support this? We already know what forms what, and lungs to breath under water, comes only naturally, that is not formed on its own, without a God. Our earth is made out of minerals, not magical dust to make ourselves evolve in such a manner. If we could form species with bacteria, we would, we just can’t, and life can’t start over by itself, without a God. I mean come on, someone go out and find the materials to mix together to make a human, am sorry, is impossible, just think about that for a second. I knew rest homes, where they seen an angel on films, when someone died, so I believe just with that alone. How would you explain spirits, my dog literally was standing in the air, an old dog, that could not even jump. These minerals we have on earth don’t make us bigger, just fat and eventually die from that, dinosaurs were large creatures, first creatures ever lived, none of which could even be close to looking like a human, they could only survive back then since there was large amounts of oxygen. We all have our different proteins and DNA, and within an own species, is the only way something else can evolve, since earth doesn’t have anything that can make a change in a DNA, to make the otherwise.
Only some people now can be immune to HIV, is very rare, as for monkeys, it is with all their species, and that would be permanent, if the evolution change did happen, it really didn’t. A human now, can’t reproduce with a monkey. Even if the immunity was not permanent, what particle on earth, would make that happen? Since all monkeys are immune today, no sexual adaptation could occur, to make this change.
Do you evan read any replies id dosent matter if monkeys can shoot lasers from their eyes WE DID NOT EVOVLVE FROM THEM!!!! we evolved from a preehuman/monkey the monkeys went of and did their thing the humans did our own thing for you to be right that PREmonkey/human hadt to have imunety and still your argument could be rebuttet that during the course of evolution we lost that immunity

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frako
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Message 91 of 102 (586725)
10-14-2010 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by matt101
10-14-2010 1:44 PM


Re: EVOLUTION, FORGET IT
Read my current thread, your arguing against yourself.
It has to be within own species.
magical dust is like you trying to find materials here on earth, and lay them out on the table, and have them come together by themselves, and form.
syntetic life is being made today no god needed, if it can happen in a lab it can happen in nature.
DNA has to be produced anyways
read this it might help
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/071102_adenine.htm
and the threads have to be connected, is why dinosaurs were not produced all over again.
um it would be silly to think evolution would produce the same resoult in different conditions.

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frako
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Message 92 of 102 (586726)
10-14-2010 2:03 PM
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10-14-2010 1:52 PM


Re: 48hr break
I believe you. Take 48hrs to consider if you'd like to change that. Start by reading where I requested you don't reply to my post and advance from there.
If you return and when you do so, I am faced with making another moderation decision it will be to suspend you indefinitely.
cmmon please don't do it it is hard to find someone as uneducated,ignorant, whit all of the answers as him, you are taking the fun out of the thread.

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frako
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Message 98 of 102 (586753)
10-14-2010 4:34 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by matt101
10-14-2010 3:23 PM


Re: EVOLUTION, FORGET IT
dude how old are you? 14, 13.
If you knew what synthetic is, is used in foods today, not to produce humans
umm i was talking about syntetic life as in Synthetic biology - Wikipedia
volution has to happen within own species, and that should be called change in phenotypes due to breeding with your own kind.
so something like increase in pigment in african people, or decrease in pigment in people that live in notrhern lands like norway skandinavia, or maybe the eyes of mongoloids (chinese, and simmilar), their eyes evolved so they are protecded better from snow, rain sand ....
we are still the same species but if we where seperated long enough changes would be more evident and at some point interbreeding would be impossible.
since God didn’t make us an animal to start out as. Is a difference between an animal and a human? You’re more or less saying we came from a monkey.
so what is the diference betwean an animal and a human, tools well apes use tools, emotions elephants cry at the spot a relative died years after the death, comunication well lots of animals comunicate the only diference is that they do it more primitavly, or maybe our buildings, ants and simmilar creatures build stuff too compared to sizes we still have to catch up to them.
the only diference is we are at the top of the food chain thanx to our enormus brains and they are not.
Note- when all forms of monkey are immune to SIV, we would also be immune when a so called evolution would occur.
we hae been past this this is no disproff of evolution the imunity could have happen somwehre after we seperated our branch from the monkey branch.
YOU BELIEVE THAT HIV COMES OUT OF NOWHERE ,LOL IS FROM A MONKEY, AND YOU ALSO BELIEVE THIS CHANGE IN IMMUNITY CAME THROUGH EATING DIFFERENT FOOD OR SOMETHINGLOL, IDK, JUST DON’T HAPPEN BY ITSELF, FOREVER WOULD BE IMMUNE IF WE DON’Y EAT MONKEY
no i do not belive it came from nowhere, it is a very evolved virus that was first present in monkeys.
A growing in brain is what evolutionist should believe in, and that it happens in terms of animals within its own species, to make a different breed
yes and what is the problem whit that. you are saying that one cannot make different breeds, well you should ask dog breeders what they haveto say about that it is the same as evolution the only thing diferent is that man makes the choice in the trait not nature.
your saying the pre monkey humans, came from regular monkeys like the history channel showed.
um no
the common ancestor of monkeys apes and humans split in to the ancestor of monkeys, and the ancestor of humans and apes and then those ancestors split again and again to get us the apes and monkeys so unless the common ancestor had the imunitiy gen there is no reason humans should have it the gen could have come from the only monkey ancestor, if the common ancestor had it it could have been lost during evolution since hiv is transmitied trough sex populations that did not have the virus did not need the imunity. probably though hiv jumped from monkeys to humans at a later stage and humans did not have the imunity since they did not evolve whit the virus in their population.

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