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ringo
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Message 48 of 89 (586023)
10-10-2010 8:02 PM 		Reply to: Message 46 by BarackZero
10-10-2010 6:08 PM

BarackZero writes:
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People on your side who do so should be studiously ignored.
If you're trying to ignore people, you're doing it wrong.
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"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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Message 64 of 89 (586744)
10-14-2010 3:43 PM 		Reply to: Message 63 by SignGuy
10-14-2010 3:24 PM

Re: Religious indoctrination
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Christianity teaches SOO MUCH about treating people nicely.
Does it teach you not to use all capitals? Because that would be nice.
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"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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10-14-2010 5:59 PM 		Reply to: Message 69 by SignGuy
10-14-2010 4:42 PM

Re: Evidence please
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But my bible teaches of a great flood......and I see the grand canyon a result of an enormous flood of the earth, not a gentle carving over millions of years because many rivers that exist today could possibly be just as old, but will never carve a canyon like that.
You can do the experiment yourself in your own back yard. Dig up a garden patch with a little slope on it so it drains nicely. Then put two barrels of water on one side. In one barrel, make a little hole at the bottom so that the water trickles out slowly. Then push over the other barrel to dump the water quickly. Which one do you think will simulate the Grand Canyon?
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Message 78 of 89 (586892)
10-15-2010 11:56 AM 		Reply to: Message 75 by SignGuy
10-15-2010 11:03 AM

SignGuy writes:
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And to be frank, I see the appeal of choosing to believe in evolution or some other natural process of existence.
I don't think you do. It isn't a choice so much as acknowledging the elephant in the room. It isn't a matter of wanting a "substitute" for religion. On the contrary, religion has always been a substitute for real knowledge.
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SignGuy writes:
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Furthermore, he or she never feels responsible for there actions to a higher being.
And yet, many Christians and members of other religions do accept the facts. Contrary to your opinion again, it's the religionists who tend to treat religion as a get-out-of-hell-free card. Following a god's orders is no substitute for an internalized sense of morality.
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Don't be suprised or offended if the majority of Christians dont even look at the data you present them.
But they do. It's only the ones with small faith and big mouths who oppose the evidence.
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"It appears that many of you turn to Hebrew to escape the English...." -- Joseppi
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12-10-2010 10:35 AM 		Reply to: Message 84 by BarackZero
12-10-2010 8:41 AM

BarackZero writes:
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Truth and knowledge are not functions of how many people comprehend them.
That was my point. People like Galileo, Copernicus and Newton went after real truth and knowledge without regard for what the religious majority proclaimed to be The Truth™. If they retained their faith, it was not at the expense of dispensing with real truth and knowledge.
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Another scientist, arguably of similar stature to Newton, Copernicus and Galileo, who did lose much of his faith was Charles Darwin. It can go either way. What's important is that scientists don't let their religion, if any, get in the way of knowledge.
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"I'm Rory Bellows, I tell you! And I got a lot of corroborating evidence... over here... by the throttle!"
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