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Author Topic:   Creationists should stop using the term Darwinism
faith4flipper
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Message 1 of 6 (588725)
10-27-2010 8:41 PM


Abstract Evolutionary biology owes much to Charles Darwin, whose discussions of common descent and natural selection provide the foundations of the discipline. But evolutionary biology has expanded well beyond its foundations to encompass many theories and concepts unknown in the 19th century. The term Darwinism is, therefore, ambiguous and misleading. Compounding the problem of Darwinism is the hijacking of the term by creationists to portray evolution as a dangerous ideologyan ismthat has no place in the science classroom. When scientists and teachers use Darwinism as synonymous with evolutionary biology, it reinforces such a misleading portrayal and hinders efforts to present the scientific standing of evolution accurately. Accordingly, the term Darwinism should be abandoned as a synonym for evolutionary biology. A little bit of revisionism is needed for this theory to work. I have posted this because I have such a solution in mind.
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Edited by Admin, : Change title.

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Message 2 of 6 (588771)
10-28-2010 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by faith4flipper
10-27-2010 8:41 PM


What might work better as a debate topic is something like "Creationists should stop using the term Darwinism". Would you be willing to recraft your opening post along those lines?

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faith4flipper
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Message 3 of 6 (588871)
10-28-2010 7:47 PM
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10-28-2010 8:24 AM


I think thats a great idea! Why not just change the thread title instead?
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Message 4 of 6 (588926)
10-29-2010 7:51 AM


Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
Thread copied here from the Creationists should stop using the term DarwinismDarwinism[/i] thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.

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Message 5 of 6 (588934)
10-29-2010 8:04 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by faith4flipper
10-27-2010 8:41 PM


Ah, but that would ruin the fun of burning strawmen.
Because as every good little creationist knows, these big meanie evilooshunusts still believe the exact same things as Darwin did, and they all treat him like a prophet.
A little bit of revisionism is needed for this theory to work. I have posted this because I have such a solution in mind.
O rly?
Out of the blue, I'm going to ranodmly guess that it might include genetics of some kind, possibly with the addition of punctuated equilibria to complement phyletic gradulism. And then we could call all of this stuff together the 'modern synthesis' or some similar weird label. You know, 'cause of being really new -- hence modern -- and made of lots of different stuff -- hence synthesis.
Honestly, you're acting like this is a major breakthrough. The only people that still call it Darwinism are creotards and IDiots, and we know why they do it.
Incidentally Admin, are you aware this exact same text appears on Panda'sThumb already? Plus a couple of other sites as Google shows. I'm strongly of the opinion this is just a shameless self-promotion by an attention-seeker, who thinks they've come up with a "solution" to an age-old problem which has... already been solved.

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Message 6 of 6 (588938)
10-29-2010 8:50 AM


Closing this down due to violation of Rule 7
  1. Never include material not your own without attribution to the original source.

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