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Dr Adequate
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Message 27 of 107 (589169)
10-31-2010 12:37 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by RAZD
08-11-2009 7:43 AM


Re: So iff ID is not a religious teaching ...
Why is 40% of the undergraduate grade based on
quote:
(2) write a 3,000-word essay on the theological significance of intelligent design (worth 40% of your grade);
Well, they have to explain why ID is a defense of religious truthiness when they're raising funds from fundies, but has nothing whatsoever to do with religion when they're in front of a judge.
Surely that's worth 40% of a grade. Anyone who can do that in a mere 3,000 words could be the next St Thomas Aquinas.

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Message 36 of 107 (589225)
10-31-2010 9:14 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by lyx2no
10-31-2010 6:14 PM


Re: For the Extra Credit
Owls.
I think that's a parliament.

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Message 43 of 107 (589241)
11-01-2010 4:30 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by Dawn Bertot
11-01-2010 2:40 AM


Re: Final exam questions
Oh I love this one. How IDers start with a conclusion and then look for evidence to support it.
While this is in no way true, would you mean the same way Darwin started with a conclusion by observation in the 1800s, then it took everybody else running around looking for the evidence to support his conclusions and preconcieved notions
You mean that kind of "significance of evolution"?
If you didn't post about things you didn't understand, you'd post a lot less often.
One of these things appears to be the scientific method. You have already had several threads to be thoroughly wrong about that topic; this one is about something else.

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Message 72 of 107 (589470)
11-02-2010 6:29 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Dawn Bertot
11-02-2010 5:07 PM


Re: What, judges cant be idiots like yourselves?
Observation, investigation, experimentation, conclusions, predictions, shalll i go on?
Since I am clueless, tell me what other test I need to conducted that have not already been demonstrated to constitute it as a scinentific investigation
The cdesign proponentists need to actually do some "observation, investigation, experimentation, conclusions, predictions" rather than you reciting it like a mantra. That would be kinda the missing step --- the step between saying stuff and doing it.
Instead it seems that they're too busy writing papers about the theological significance of their gibberish. It's really no substitute.

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Message 73 of 107 (589471)
11-02-2010 6:30 PM
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11-02-2010 5:04 PM


Re: TOPIC PLEASE
This is not another general creationism topic for Bertot to display his ignorance and everyone to pile on. Could we please limit discussion to the actual topic?
Oh, sorry, I missed that. At least I referred to the topic.

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Message 82 of 107 (589494)
11-02-2010 9:31 PM
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11-02-2010 8:16 PM


Suggestion
Please tell me specifically what "doing it" is, that we have not already done, that does not follow your pattern of the S and M,
Do you have any specifics?
Yes. I suggest that they produce a hypothesis having predictive power, so that it is in principle testable and so amenable to the scientific method.
Any further specifics will have to depend on what that hypothesis is.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 84 of 107 (589510)
11-03-2010 2:51 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by Dawn Bertot
11-03-2010 1:42 AM


Re: Suggestion
Two people from two different backgrounds may not understand the way in which a term is being used, such as "predictive."
How are you using this term and specifically what do you mean by it.
The predictions of a hypothesis are the necessary consequences of it being true.
Can you give me an example in your methodology of why this will produce an event that cannot be demonstrated by ID?
If that sentence has a meaning, it is known only to you and to God --- and I'm not sure about him.
What exacally does the totality of evolution predict?
It makes predictions in a number of fields such as morphology, embryology, paleontology, genetics, behavioral ecology and biogeography.
However we have strayed far enough from the topic of this thread without me giving you a crash course in Evolution For Absolute Beginners.

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Message 92 of 107 (589757)
11-04-2010 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by Dawn Bertot
11-04-2010 10:28 AM


Re: Suggestion
Someone so contemptibly stupid that he's lying to me about the contents of my own posts writes:
Ill try this again and see if you try avoiding it again. Answer the question
What exacally does the totality of evolution predict that is different than IDs methodology
Instead if repeading what I asked you, perhaps you could give me an example that is different than IDs methods. Since the scientific method is superior.
So what predictions does evo make and how are its basic scientific methods different than IDs, to make it more acceptable
Examples this time, not repetitions of my questions, reworded
This should be fun to watch
Dawn Bertot
Dr A writes:
It makes predictions in a number of fields such as morphology, embryology, paleontology, genetics, behavioral ecology and biogeography.
However we have strayed far enough from the topic of this thread without me giving you a crash course in Evolution For Absolute Beginners.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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