Hi ICANT,
You ignored the point I was trying to make.
You said in message 145
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A man leaves point A and a man reaches point B where is the 'Macro-Evolution'?
I am sure he changed a lot during the trip you described one being that he would be very, very, very old.
But if he is still a man when he arrives no 'Macro-Evolution' has occured. Whether the journey took a week or a billion years, and no matter how many pictures of that man you had along the way.
and I responded in message 157 that no one was saying the man was macro-evolving:
quote:
No one is saying that the man making the journey is evolving. It is an analogy: each individual step in his journey is like each individual step in Micro-evolution. When he reaches his destination, all those small steps add up to his entire journey. just like all those small steps of Micro-evolution add up to become Macro-evolution.
Do you get it now?
ICANT in message 157 writes:
Once it is established how life began to exist then we could get serious about what has happened since that time.
Well this thread topic is
Can you disprove Macro-Evolution, not how life began.
ICANT writes:
'Micro-Evolution' is changes up through speciation. This has empirical, verifiable, reproducible evidence in support of that position.
'Macro-Evolution' is changes after speciation and above speciation.
In this discussion, the point that we are trying to make, is that there is really
ONLY micro-evolution. Micro-evolution keeps going on and on and on
In the populations during and after a speciation event micro-evolution keeps right on happening, continuing on and on and on and if another speciation event happens, it keeps going on and on and on in the new populations.
but, in each of the new populations the micro-evolution that is happening is different from all of the others, because they were all separated at each speciation event.
So, the only thing that is happening to these species is micro-evolution. There is no separate mechanism that suddenly starts happening called macro-evolution. The species are micro-evolving and slowly getting a little more different from each other each generation and the differences may not even be noticeable for many generations.
The micro-evolution continues on forever until the species goes extinct. If an individual in a population dies before it has a chance to reproduce, then the long line of micro-evolution that happened to all of its ancestors, back through the past, to the first common ancestor ends. If other members of the species are still alive then every time they reproduce micro-evolution is continuing on in each generation.
We humans love to categorize things into various groups. Animals and plants and other organisms seem to fall into some obvious groupings. We find it convenient name the groups and we have been doing this as long as people have been studying living things.
Macro-evolution is just a label that we use to denote points along those long lines of micro-evolution that are happening in every lineage in every species when they reproduce. It is not a separate or different kind of evolution.
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