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Topic: quote of the day
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Buzsaw
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Message 106 of 121 (588330)
10-23-2010 11:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 104 by Theodoric
10-23-2010 7:01 PM
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Re: Quote Retract
Theodoric writes: Just because you have stated this in the past before does not make it correct. Cite a source, if you can't then quit attributing it to Jefferson. It doesn't even sound like Jefferson. If you can find a source I will retract my remarks. I've checked out a number of press related quotes from Jefferson and have concluded that either I erred on who said it or my source was not reliable. I retract my claim and apologize for not sourcing my claim before airing it. Jefferson, however, was very critical of the mainstream press of his time and vowed not to write anything in the newspapers.
"Our printers raven on the agonies of their victims, as wolves do on the blood of the lamb." --Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe, 1811. ME 13:59 "From forty years' experience of the wretched guess-work of the newspapers of what is not done in open daylight, and of their falsehood even as to that, I rarely think them worth reading, and almost never worth notice." --Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe, 1816. ME 14:430 "Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day." --Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, 1807. ME 11:224
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 107 of 121 (588339)
10-24-2010 9:28 AM
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Back to Quotes
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 108 of 121 (588343)
10-24-2010 9:58 AM
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Reply to: Message 106 by Buzsaw
10-23-2010 11:28 PM
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Re: Quote Retract
One last point. You said:
Buz writes: Of course the press today entails all media mediums. Oh, so true, and relative to America's decline, excalating since the days of big syndicated news and the vanishing of the local small hometown press. Not to mention the lamestream media, i.e. mainsteam electronic media, as Rush Limbaugh describes it. Of course in Jefferson's day there was no such thing as big syndicated news but rather only local, small, hometown press.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Wounded King
Member Posts: 4149 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Joined: 04-09-2003
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Message 109 of 121 (588349)
10-24-2010 10:37 AM
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Reply to: Message 107 by AZPaul3
10-24-2010 9:28 AM
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Re: Back to Quotes
Seems to me that Russell was ripping of Yeats.
WB Yeats writes: The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity. --- The Second Coming TTFN, WK
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Re: Back to Quotes
That may be so. I couldn't say. Maybe great minds do think alike and each was making their own observation? Who knows. My Yeats is a bit rusty nonexistent. In seeing these messages I thought of the Russell quote. If I had known of the Yeats quote I would have used that one. It is so much more elegant. Thank you, WK.
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Dogmafood
Member (Idle past 370 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: 08-04-2010
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Message 111 of 121 (588389)
10-24-2010 10:44 PM
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Does anyone recognize this? It is from Pink Floyd's 'Several species of small furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a pict.' Does it come from somewhere else? Here is a link to the song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1tfUaBezFo&feature=related Aye an’ a bit of Mackeral settler rack and ruin ran it doon by the haim, ‘ma place well I slapped me and I slapped it doon in the side and I cried, cried, cried. The fear a fallen down taken never back the raize and then Craig Marion, get out wi’ ye Claymore out mi pocket a’ ran doon, doon the middin stain picking the fiery horde that was fallen around ma feet. Never he cried, never shall it ye get me alive ye rotten hound of the burnie crew. Well I snatched fer the blade O my Claymore cut and thrust and I fell doon before him round his feet. Aye! A roar he cried frae the bottom of his heart that I would nay fall but as dead, dead as ‘a can be by his feet; de ya ken? and the wind cried back.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9144 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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Message 112 of 121 (588390)
10-24-2010 11:06 PM
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Reply to: Message 111 by Dogmafood
10-24-2010 10:44 PM
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Roger Waters original I believe
Your lyrics seem pretty close to what I understand them to be. One issue I have is that I do not believe it is "and then Craig Marion", I believe it is "And then cried Mary". The heavy Scots accent is tough to understand.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Dogmafood
Member (Idle past 370 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: 08-04-2010
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Message 113 of 121 (588392)
10-24-2010 11:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 112 by Theodoric
10-24-2010 11:06 PM
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Re: Roger Waters original I believe
The heavy Scots accent is tough to understand. I thought it was Gaelic until I came across this translation. After reading it I thought that it must belong to some aged text but it wouldnt really surprise me if it was original Waters. I was wondering about the actual sounds of words and how they increase the impact of a statement. The way that the vocalist says "A roar he cried frae the bottom of his heart" has stuck with me for 30 yrs.
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Dogmafood
Member (Idle past 370 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: 08-04-2010
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Message 114 of 121 (588393)
10-24-2010 11:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 112 by Theodoric
10-24-2010 11:06 PM
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Master of Cadence
Another great one from Waters would be "Hear the lark and harken to the barking of the dog fox...gone to ground."
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 756 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 115 of 121 (588402)
10-25-2010 9:13 AM
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Reply to: Message 114 by Dogmafood
10-24-2010 11:51 PM
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Re: Master of Cadence
Dammit, Dogmafood! I want one of those signs!
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Dogmafood
Member (Idle past 370 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: 08-04-2010
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Message 116 of 121 (588445)
10-25-2010 6:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 115 by Coragyps
10-25-2010 9:13 AM
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Re: Master of Cadence
 You can probably order one from the Canadian Ministry for Public Safety.
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dwise1
Member Posts: 5949 Joined: 05-02-2006 Member Rating: 5.5
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Message 117 of 121 (588703)
10-27-2010 3:28 PM
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Bumper Stickers
Line Dancing: What happens when cousins breed.
If we were meant to be vegetarians, then why did God make animals out of food?
Friends do not let friends vote Republican.
I still miss my ex, but my aim is improving.
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Dogmafood
Member (Idle past 370 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: 08-04-2010
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Message 118 of 121 (590263)
11-07-2010 8:50 AM
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Eternity
I always thought it was Hawking who said; "Eternity is a long time, especially near the end." but apparently it was Woody Allen.
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Dogmafood
Member (Idle past 370 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: 08-04-2010
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Message 119 of 121 (592139)
11-19-2010 12:27 AM
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Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power.
P. J. O'Rourke
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Artemis Entreri 
Suspended Member (Idle past 4250 days) Posts: 1194 From: Northern Virginia Joined: 07-08-2008
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Message 120 of 121 (593902)
11-30-2010 11:18 AM
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"My most recent faith struggle is not one of intellect. I don't really do that anymore. Sooner or later you just figure out there are some guys who don't believe in God and they can prove He doesn't exist, and some other guys who do believe in God and they can prove He does exist, and the argument stopped being about God a long time ago and now it's about who is smarter, and honestly I don't care."-- Donald Miller
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