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arachnophilia
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Message 3 of 56 (192669)
03-19-2005 10:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by pink sasquatch
03-18-2005 12:16 PM


What is the oldest religious text?
one thing is certain: it is NOT monotheistic.
the tradition date for the authorship of genesis/exodus is about 1250 bc, the hypothetical time of moses. (they were in fact written much later)
moses was preceeded in egpyt by akhenaten (amenhotep 4) by about 100 years. he was the first historical leader of a monotheistic religion. he of course turned about 2000 years of egyptian polytheistic tradition on its head. so, uh, polytheism goes back a lot longer monotheism.
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Message 6 of 56 (192684)
03-19-2005 10:48 PM
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03-19-2005 10:40 PM


you are running into the problem of pre-historic cultures that were polytheistic but did not record the faiths in texts or documents.
well, no, i'm dealing strictly with recorded egyptian belief.

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Message 56 of 56 (594322)
12-03-2010 12:28 AM
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11-29-2010 12:24 AM


Re: Oldest biblical Text
michaelrobin writes:
It is my understanding in that JOB, is the oldest biblical text.
This is perhaps what I mean by "Bible Study" not being very in-depth.
If you assume that each book of the Bible was written by its namesake (which is a stretch to begin with), and the the Torah was written by Moses, yes, Job would be the oldest... story-wise.
However, it's actually among the newest books of the old testament. How do we know? Writing style, for one. That particular kind of poetic argument just isn't found in the earliest Hebrew literature, nor are multiple points of view. For two, subject matter. The book exists to debate the Wisdom Movement. No Wisdom Movement, no book of Job: it can't come before Jeremiah, etc.
The oldest (unmodified) books of the bible are likely some of the minor prophets. I personally suspect some of the source material for the Torah might be that old, but it was compiled (and redacted) quite a while later.
You might be interested to study the structure of a Hebrew Bible. It divides its text into canonization periods. The Torah is obviously placed first, and afterward comes Judges, Samuel/Kings, the major prophets and the minor prophets, in a section called Nevi'im ("prophets"), which was canonized next. Job falls in the last section, Kethuvim ("writings") which are assorted writings that were under debate, and added most recently. There's even some thought that it was not added until after the time of Christ, as he refers to "the Law (torah) and the Prophets (nevi'im)" but not the third section. He mentions once "and the Psalms" which may be the third section in some form, or perhaps strictly just the Psalms.

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