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Message 29 of 78 (46547)
07-20-2003 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by funkmasterfreaky
07-20-2003 12:21 PM


Manuscripts
This sounds like a new topic. Could the next person who wants to deal with it start that up?

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Message 31 of 78 (46596)
07-20-2003 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by doctrbill
07-20-2003 5:19 PM


off topic! off topic! off topic! yells chicken little up to his a.. in sky.

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Message 34 of 78 (46631)
07-21-2003 3:36 AM
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07-20-2003 7:50 PM


Re: Nosey Ned
Is that a polite "shuddup"? It seems that once a thread gets a head of steam up in the wrong direction it has to be put down.

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Message 46 of 78 (60464)
10-10-2003 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Pringlesguy7
10-10-2003 3:46 PM


When I hear this kind of idea, it seems to me that the individual who accepts it is in the same postition that all of us were a 1,000 years ago.
From a position of almost total ignorance everything we see appears to be magical and totally incomprehensible. From a complete lack of understanding it is possible to arrive at these kind of conclusions and see gods hand everywhere.
As we learn to understand what is around us it is very much possible to "look into the sky at the stars, and think about it for a while, and honestly tell" you that I see no sign of any intelligent hand in it at all. The dark curtain of ignorance has been partially pulled away and light shines onto a corner of the universe around us. I may well be awestruck, more so than you perhaps, but I am not deluded.

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Message 53 of 78 (60632)
10-12-2003 2:32 PM
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10-10-2003 6:57 PM


I couldn't find the word --Panentheism
I did find pantheism:
A doctrine identifying the Deity with the universe and its phenomena.
Belief in and worship of all gods.
I'd say I don't think much about either meaning. I don't even really understand what it implies.

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Message 66 of 78 (62484)
10-23-2003 11:01 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Thanos6
10-23-2003 10:42 PM


a lot more class than most atheists in your position, many of whom tend to denigrate all believers in any deity as moronic fools.
Gee, I hope that most of us wouldn't fall into this. The problem is that here you are seeing the reaction to a small subset of believers. They could be called the "extremists" of believers and do tend to bring out some more extreme reactions.
That said, I will admit that a significant number of atheists are not just un believers but are militantly anti belief too. Myself I think I tend to vary depending on who I am talking too.
I just spent a pleasant day visiting a couple of old friends who are believers (she is a minister, in fact) and part of the discussion was about religious issues. We get along famously.
I have also had discussions with others who I don't get along with so very well.

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Message 67 of 78 (62485)
10-23-2003 11:02 PM
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10-23-2003 10:42 PM


Something I can't really find the right words to describe
The concept of "emergant properties" can sometimes help one understand things that are hard to explain.

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