EvC Forum: The Obama Nation

I said, by cabinet members or left to Congress where some of them belong, both of which are vetted and accountable to the people. Obama's radicals are neither.

And I'll ask you again: Which jobs which Bush had done by a cabinet member are now performed by "czars"? Which powers which used to be vested in cabinet members are now vested in "czars".

(Obviously there has been no transfer of power from Congress to the President.)

Be specific. Or admit that you're making a big fuss over absolutely nothing that you actually know of.

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Message 167 of 171 (572056)
08-03-2010 12:58 PM

Reply to: Message 159 by Buzsaw
08-03-2010 8:47 AM

Re: Can Buzsaw Support his assertions

The Senate's F22 fighter vote sends Obama a victory.

So not a strategic bomber like you initially claimed.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
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Message 168 of 171 (572059)
08-03-2010 1:13 PM

More on the F-22 Raptor.

Buz makes an assertion that the cancellation of the F-22 Raptor is some big weakening of US Defense capabilities.

But is it?

Facts. Originally 187 Raptors were planned for production. As of May, 2010, 168 had been built.

Facts. There was a planned bomber based on the F-22, the FB-22 and has never been more than a design proposal.

Facts. The follow on fighter to the F-22 is the F-35, scheduled to enter service between 2014 and 2016. So far 13 flight test aircraft have been built as well as over a dozen low rate initial production aircraft.

Amazing how facts trump innuendo and misrepresentation every time.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 169 of 171 (572089)
08-03-2010 5:50 PM

Reply to: Message 158 by Buzsaw
08-03-2010 8:10 AM

Re: Buzsaw Claims No Prophecy Gift

If some of you sheeple would tune in to him more often you might get your own biased thinking enlightened.

I listened to his radio show for about two years. Am I qualified to tell you, now, that it was a steady stream of Limbaughian lies and goofy tinfoil hat conspiracy theories?

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Message 170 of 171 (572121)
08-03-2010 9:10 PM

Reply to: Message 158 by Buzsaw
08-03-2010 8:10 AM

Re: Buzsaw Claims No Prophecy Gift

If some of you sheeple would tune in to him more often you might get your own biased thinking enlightened.

I've done that for the entertainment value and cannot help but hear this song while watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Cv_v8adJc .

Stupidly like the Nazi communist (oxymoron!) make me laugh then I remember people honestly believe the uneducated idiocy and I get nauseous.

Edited by DC85, : No reason given.

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Message 171 of 171 (611780)
04-10-2011 9:27 PM

Obama's Birth

Bumping this thread because it seems the most appropritate

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/...519951/ns/politics-more_politics

To sum up the above article:

- The long form birth certificate exists
- The long form birth certificate is state property and by law cannot be released to the public
- The shorter "certification of live birth" is what anybody would get from the state when they requested a copy of their birth certiificate

"What he got, everybody got," said Fukino. "He put out exactly what everybody gets when they ask for a birth certificate."

- Along with the birth certificate, Obama's birth is registered in a public index of vital records

- Buz and other birthers are full of shit (that one may be heavily paraphrased)

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