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Author Topic:   Creationism in science classrooms (an argument for)
Taq
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Message 580 of 609 (612312)
04-14-2011 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 575 by Dawn Bertot
04-14-2011 4:31 PM


Re: New header (finally)
Behe is not an apologist, he is a scientist.
Then please point to the peer reviewed papers where Behe has published his scientific work, and show us how it tests ID.

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Message 590 of 609 (612407)
04-15-2011 10:52 AM
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04-15-2011 3:13 AM


Re: An Argument For?
My great insistence is that the founding Yankee and southern Puritan and Protestant population who gave the constitution legitimacy and so its force NEVER intended anything to ban God or Genesis in schools as the truth or options for truth on points of origin.
It's a moot point. The courts have ruled. Those rulings are binding.
There is no constitutional prohibition of ideas on origins from any direction.
Yes, there is, at least where it concerns teaching religion in shools funded by public tax dollars.

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Message 591 of 609 (612409)
04-15-2011 10:56 AM
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04-15-2011 2:27 AM


Re: Creationism is Religion
if religious matters didn't matter in the classroom then the state would not teach them as being false or ban them.
No teach in any public school is teaching that religion is false.
It bans creationism because it does matter.
It bans creationism because teaching creationism has no secular purpose and entangles the government in religious matters. Please google "Lemon Test" for more information.
The claim is that the church and state must not interfere with each other.
Yet the state is doing just that by teaching ideas contrary to the church.
No, it isn't. Teaching evolution has a clear secular purpose. Also, the government is not teaching that evolution or an old Earth are contrary to religious beliefs. Creationists are the ones teaching this.
you can't beat the logic here.
We can, and have.

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Message 592 of 609 (612410)
04-15-2011 10:57 AM
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04-15-2011 2:14 AM


Re: Creationism is Religion
Our purpose is to demand and allow the truth and the search for tryth in public institutions of learning.
Then you should convince school boards to make Truth Class availabe to students. We are talking about Science Class.

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