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Author Topic:   Love Wins - Rob Bell
Aware Wolf
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Message 9 of 30 (612756)
04-18-2011 2:57 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by GDR
04-18-2011 2:34 PM


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He does however assert, as do many others, that in the end those that wind up in hell choose it.
I don't see how it makes sense that anyone in their right mind chooses hell. Not unless hell really isn't all that bad, or they don't have all the information.
I supposed someone suffering from depression or feeling very guilty over something they did may choose it, but that would be tragic and silly.

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Aware Wolf
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Message 14 of 30 (612765)
04-18-2011 3:42 PM
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04-18-2011 3:12 PM


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In the 60's a couple of phrases that were popular was "looking out for number one" or "if it feels good do it". The point of these phrases that was that it was all about "me".
Wouldn't the folks who are "overly" interested in themselves be even more likely to choose paradise over torment for themselves?

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Aware Wolf
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Message 17 of 30 (612838)
04-19-2011 8:10 AM
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04-19-2011 12:25 AM


Well, OK. I don't want to drag the thread off topic. It just seems like it's an implied truism in the Christian worldview that Heaven is hugely, objectively preferrable to Hell.

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Aware Wolf
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Message 21 of 30 (612849)
04-19-2011 11:52 AM
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04-19-2011 10:56 AM


I think our short conversation here isn't getting off the ground because we aren't talking about the same thing. I'm assuming the "traditional" definitions of Heaven and Hell where, even if we don't have the details, Heaven is wonderful and glorious and Hell is a place of suffering, not because of who might be there but because of the natures of Heaven and Hell themselves. If you aren't also assuming the same thing, then it's a pointless exchange and we may as well wrap it up.

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