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Author Topic:   The Christian Churches Undermining Democracy in South Korea.
Solomon18
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Message 1 of 17 (614004)
04-30-2011 7:02 AM


Myungbak Lee, who is the current president of South Korea, won the presidential election by deceiving many innocent citizens in South Korea.
Korea has been divided by North and South, and the special circumstances considered, ideology is an important determinant of voting decisions for Korean citizens.
During the presidential election period, Myungbak Lee, a presidential candidate from the conservative side, publicly stated that the poverty of his family made it extremely difficult for him to get into college, and that's what enabled him to have much empathy with the poor in Korea.
He also publicly acknowledged how difficult it is to get out of poverty in South Korea, and he pledged to stop the vicious cycle of poverty by fostering public educations for the poor.
To make a long story short, he suggested the prerequisite for the conservatism, at least moderately equal opportunity for all individuals, absent in South Korea, and therefore, argued against his political position as a conservative.
Myungbak Lee also, during the election period, publicly made a bizarre statement that he would pursue pragmatism transcending ideologies.
Pragmatism highlights the preference for the observable data over theories missing such data, and pragmatism is what liberals generally value more than conservatives do.
Many politicians and scholars on the conservative side as Myungbak Lee made public criticism on his statement such that he was not conservative at all, and they didn't vote for Myungbak Lee. Nevertheless, Myungbak Lee, who showed a bizarre political position where he showed himself as supportive of both conservative and liberal ideologies, won the presidential election by a landslide.
It was bizarre that the leaders in many religious organizations having the same religious belief as Myungbak Lee's didn't make any comments on his bizarre political position, and Myungbak Lee was mistaken for a politician strongly supportive of the policies for the poor, and many innocent followers in the religious organizations, during the election period, suddenly started showing a favorable attitude toward Myungbak Lee.
The christian churches in South Korea kept individuals from choosing what they want, and thus, undermined democracy.
What do you think of it?
Which of the two do you think is more responsible for this kind of corruption in human society, christianity? or collective interests?
Edited by AdminPD, : Spacing

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Solomon18
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Message 5 of 17 (614147)
05-02-2011 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by jar
04-30-2011 9:10 AM


Reply to Jar.
Hello, Jar.
The basic theory of convervatism:
there is equal opportunity for all,
and each individual is responsible for his or her own poverty,
and the governmental intervention for the poor is not necessary.
When there is no equal opportunity for all,
we cannot claim each individual should be responsible for his or her own poverty,
and it cannot be justified that the governmental intervention is unnecessary.
Therefore, the very basic prerequisite for the conservatism is there is equal opportunity.
MyungBak Lee sort of claimed that there should be no equal opportunity in Korea, suggesting that he should be a strong liberal in opposition to conservatism.
However, he was from the conservative camp, and he also pledged to develop the conservative party.
he publicly stated that he would offer Seoul City to God, and so on.
Many leaders in the churches in Korea recommended their followers to vote for Myungbak Lee, explicitly telling it is the will of God.

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Solomon18
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Message 9 of 17 (614263)
05-03-2011 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by jar
05-02-2011 11:32 AM


Re: Reply to Jar.
"What bizarre political positions?"
Hello, Jar, Do you really think it's not bizzare to speak such things as "pursue prgmatism trascending ideologies?"
pragmatism is also an ideology, and it's like pursuing ideology transcending ideologies, which is essentially absurd.
"how can a church keep people from choosing what they want?"
Many church members wanted to vote for a candidate who would support the poor.
However, they ended up voting for a candidate who would not support the poor.
There were many in the churches who were highly educated and knew how politics are going and what political theories are,
but they kept their mouth shut, which caused the innocent voters to choose something they didn't want.
I think it might also be called "diffusion of responsibility" by social scientists.
among the highly educated christians, nobody volunteered to speak openly about his bizzare position.
Unlike diffusion of responsibility in general in social science,
this case can pinpoint who was responsible by a group though not by an inividual.
I think the highly educated christians were responsible.
Edited by Solomon18, : spelling error.

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