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ZenMonkey
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Message 2 of 313 (616128)
05-19-2011 7:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
05-19-2011 5:29 PM


They can always use the Kyl defense: any news item reported on Fox might "not be intended to be a factual statement."
Edited by ZenMonkey, : No reason given.

Your beliefs do not effect reality and evidently reality does not effect your beliefs.
-Theodoric
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
-Steven Colbert
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.
- John Stuart Mill

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ZenMonkey
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From: Portland, OR USA
Joined: 09-25-2009


Message 4 of 313 (616133)
05-19-2011 8:32 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Taz
05-19-2011 8:03 PM


Check out the O'Reilly clip about 5 minutes in. He says:
quote:
The importance of this is that you, the everyday American, are now being lied to on a regular basis by people working for huge corporations, and nothing's being done about it.
See, he does tell the truth sometimes.

Your beliefs do not effect reality and evidently reality does not effect your beliefs.
-Theodoric
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
-Steven Colbert
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.
- John Stuart Mill

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ZenMonkey
Member (Idle past 4537 days)
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From: Portland, OR USA
Joined: 09-25-2009


Message 37 of 313 (616261)
05-20-2011 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Taz
05-20-2011 1:19 PM


Taz writes:
The law should clearly state that if you are a registered news organization then you can't lie.
And how exactly do you want to register news organizations, or determine who should be registered and who not? What would registration actually mean?
Seems like the First Ammendment might come into play here.

Your beliefs do not effect reality and evidently reality does not effect your beliefs.
-Theodoric
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
-Steven Colbert
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.
- John Stuart Mill

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ZenMonkey
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Posts: 428
From: Portland, OR USA
Joined: 09-25-2009


Message 62 of 313 (616295)
05-20-2011 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by riVeRraT
05-20-2011 5:46 PM


Logic, please.
riVeRaT writes:
There is no refuting that liberals (for the most part) head up most of the atv banning type laws. It has always been that way. Those reports on the atc were from CBS news, which has always been liberal/democratic biased. If you live in NY, you just know this.
So liberals are behind efforts to ban ATVs. Okay. And CBS is somehow being deceptive or showing a liberal bias by reporting this? Seems to me that either CBS is being accurate and unbiased in reporting what the supposedly liberal anti-ATV crowd was doing, or was showing a liberal bias by reporting something somehow untrue about the anti-ATV crowd.
Which is it?

Your beliefs do not effect reality and evidently reality does not effect your beliefs.
-Theodoric
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
-Steven Colbert
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.
- John Stuart Mill

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ZenMonkey
Member (Idle past 4537 days)
Posts: 428
From: Portland, OR USA
Joined: 09-25-2009


Message 66 of 313 (616299)
05-20-2011 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by riVeRraT
05-20-2011 5:59 PM


Re: people like
riVeRaT writes:
Now some of you will look at that web-site and go "omg" while the people with common sense will understand that yes atv's make ruts and trails. No they are not harmful to the forest as a whole. The trails can be moved around so that the growth comes back. Maybe these idiots in the pictures should stop making foot prints because they must be killing something when they walk. But a liberal will look for any reason to have things go their way.
To my mind, the public's right not to have their public forests fucked up by outdoor enthusiasts a bunch of yahoo's riding around in three-wheel monster-truck wannabes, trumps the rights of said outdoorsmen yahoos to indulge in the aforementioned forestfucking.
Now who's whining about not having things his way?

Your beliefs do not effect reality and evidently reality does not effect your beliefs.
-Theodoric
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
-Steven Colbert
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.
- John Stuart Mill

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ZenMonkey
Member (Idle past 4537 days)
Posts: 428
From: Portland, OR USA
Joined: 09-25-2009


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Message 143 of 313 (620796)
06-20-2011 11:49 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by Coyote
05-25-2011 11:31 PM


Re: Coyote apparently a pseudo brain dead conservative
Coyote writes:
My "anti-liberal" comments are not an act, and thus are not misrepresentation.
Well, then. If the conversation about ATVs, anthrax and .22s is over - Allah be praised - then perhaps you could go back to Message 1, Message 3, Message 109, and Message 135, and give us some sort explanation of Fox News's documented on-air lies.

Your beliefs do not effect reality and evidently reality does not effect your beliefs.
-Theodoric
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
-Steven Colbert
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.
- John Stuart Mill

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ZenMonkey
Member (Idle past 4537 days)
Posts: 428
From: Portland, OR USA
Joined: 09-25-2009


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Message 152 of 313 (621041)
06-23-2011 12:15 AM
Reply to: Message 150 by Coyote
06-23-2011 12:08 AM


Re: Book: Liberal Media Distorts News Bias
Would you care to go back to Message 143 and actually answer the question there?
No to be hostile at all, Coyote. I am just a bit puzzled. You're sharp as a scalpel when it comes to science, yet you seem to turn in to Buz (I love the old man, I do) when it comes to a political discussion. What you've offered is a book with an opinion, which is not evidence. What you're avoiding is clear documentation that Fox lies. Please explain.

Your beliefs do not effect reality and evidently reality does not effect your beliefs.
-Theodoric
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
-Steven Colbert
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it.
- John Stuart Mill

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