Chuck77 writes:
Does anyone know if there is a specific topic on the difference between ID and Creationism? A lot of people seem to think the two are the same thing or ID is Creationism in disguise. They are not, and it's not an opinion. They are vastly different if people would care enough to see. This is just a general question for the forum.
To me, when I hear that the TOE and Abiogenesis are different im pretty much forced to accept it even tho I disagree that they are two entirely seperate areas. What matters tho, is that they ARE seperated. It would be nice if ID and Creationism were to.
Has this been hashed out already on other threads? Im thinking yes. If so can someone post the link here to it?
Is the general consensus on the forum that ID and Creationism are the same?
Well, I think most people will see them as the same. The main reason for this being the "wedge document" from the founders of the ID movement, the discovery institute. Look it up on wikipedia, if you don't know what the "wedge document" is. Second because of the word "cdesign proponetsists" that appears in one of the drafts of "of pandas and people", what the writers of that book basically did was copy paste every reference to "creationists/creationism" with "design proponets", only in one instance they made a mistake and only replaced the "reation" part of "creatinoists" and ended up with "cdesign proponetsists". But if you want to start a thread about it, go right ahead.