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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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Well they derive their morality from the quoran or their belief
so from their perspective they are the purely moral ones while the US is thoroughly immoral, so it is their duty to bring morality to America by any means necessary. It would not help much if the US gave all its money to Afghanistan, or if they would have never killed a civilian they would still be considered immoral and an enemy of Allah. The only way you could become friendly to those nations is if the whole of America would convert to Muslim, that you would change your constitution to be compatible with the quo ran ...... Or time and a whole lot of it because this generation is alredy taught to hate the infidels hopefully the next will not be or the next or the next.......
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
No peasant in their right mind wants to blow themselves up to save the family goat.
Well they do think they will get 72 virgins and go directly before allah while the rest of us have to wait till judgment day. Now if you would believe that not only believe but "know" that you would get that wouldn't you blow yourself up to kill a hated enemy of the god that provides you with that?
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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From an outsiders perspective I stand amazed at the child-like shock expressed after 9/11. America has been pushing it's weight around, around the world, for decades .. then someone manages to step inside your defences and gives you a bloody nose. For the first weak after the attack i was expecting a nuclear retaliation do to the idiot president you had and well because they are Americans to put it mildly just about the whole world thinks Americans are just a bunch of rednecks with too many weapons.
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Buzsaw anyone can mold the bible to be worse then the quoran, the only difference is that most of the Christian fanatics come from developed countries so they cant get such a big following to their interpretation. And that the Christian belief is mostly centeralised and has a hierarchy so if someone like the pope says condoms are evil and a sin the rest follows that bullshit, but Muslims dont have such centralized governments in their religion and any quack that knows how to read can quote a few lines from their book and get the poor uneducated and miserable peasants on their side who are all to happy to give their pitiful lives up in exchange for the 100% certain reward they are going to get in the afterlife.
And buzz if you read the quoran you will find that about 80% is IDENTICAL to the bible.
being prepared for the coming slaughter as prophesied for the latter days in Revelation 20:4 U gonna star printing doomsday fliers too ?? Tel me whats the time line so i can have a noter its not the end of the world party
The unique decapitation method has, for the most part been the Muslim method of execution in today's world. Yea the christian church was way more inventive when they killed someone who did not believe in their imaginary friend
Compared to these the muslim decapitation is humane.
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
And you think the "normal" Muslims dont mount the same defense as you just did against their fanatical brothers ??
They just interpret their book differently then the fanatics just like the old "church" interpreted the bible differently. Or do you think all muslims think its ok to kill infidels ??
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Of course where did i say anything opposite ?
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
I never saw anything that implyed thet bombing civilians is ok and not terrorism.
All i saw was discussions of why people put on bombs and blow themselves up and if the US could also be considered as a terrorist organization because civilians get killed by them too. Personally i would never use a gun to kill somebody be it the devil himself Hitler or god i personal think killing is wrong but then again i am an atheist so i dont have as many loop holes in my moral standard as religious people do The only loophole i have is if someone would directly threten me or someone i am close to. This loophole does not incloude the country those people come from their religion their nationality .... just the people that are the direct threat.
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Well im giving you an ultimatum your arian gangs have killed to many non whites you have 5 days to hand them all over to the european court in HAG or we will find them ourselves and bomb the shit out of America doing so.
And i will have no remorse for the civilian casualties if you do not comply you have chosen your side. Do you think such an ultimatum is reasonable?
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Do you tell them that we are sorry that it happened but that we don't have the power to do anything about it? Instead of invading you could pressure the country for a co op hunt for these terrorists invading with a large force to hunt down 100 people sent the wrong message to the people in that coutntry and the world. Means of pressure embargoes, cutting aid ..... they would be singing to your tune and you would need to get the guys would be a few hundred possibly a thousand men and some intel. with the whole war thing they got allot more recruits alot more support and its easy to fight a guerrilla ware. Its not like the majority wants to harbor terrorists down there its about the same as the us harboring the crips, or the bloods, or the kkk. Edited by frako, : No reason given.
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
There are no civilian casualties if an enemy claims they will fight to the last. At that point, they are all soldiers.
Curious, would you build some sort of camp to "euthanise" prisoners of war, people running from their country, the people left in a city you captured. Or would you just order the troops to shoot them on sight and leave their bodies to rot?
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
In todays world, how can we hold individuals or groups of individuals responsible for acts of war against nations? Well in Europe a court in Hag deals with ware crimes and techincly one could call the attack on WTC a ware crime (deliberately targeting civilians). The question is, is this a ware that al kaida started because al kaida is not a nation or country its an organisation. If it is not a ware then they would haveto be tried as any other bomber or mass murderer the problem is that Osama is/was not a us citizen and never stepped on us soil so arresting him in his country is a bit like the english aresting the leader of the bloods in the us and taking him to england for trial. So you would haveto negotiate with their country for a co op capture and a fair trial in his country or an extradition to your country where he can face trial .... The problem was you had an idiot for president who probably though al kaida is just a nother word for Afghanistan , so he wen with his gut reaction and said lets make a glass crater out of them somebody must have told him that the Russians or the Chinese wont be happy if he launches nukes so he did the next best thing all out ware with the "mighty" coalition of the willing.
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
They were flying planes into ships. They didn't care at all if they lived or died, so long as they killed us in the process. Well techicaly the pilots got screwed either way they had a choice and had to sighn what they want to do fly a plane in to a ship for mother japan and the emperor or fly crazy hours till they get shot down. They would die either way the only choice they had is would they die as a national hero or some nameless pilot.
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frako Member (Idle past 327 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
and every one of those 55 countries is looking for an excuse to get their troops back.
Even my country wants their 20 soldiers back
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