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Author Topic:   Why are there no human apes alive today?
Nuggin
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Message 607 of 1075 (622422)
07-03-2011 2:43 AM
Reply to: Message 604 by Mazzy
07-03-2011 2:24 AM


Re: Apes have ventured into space and animals that have built automatons.
So as you know, I hope, only humans have a chin. Turkana boy had a chin as did Neanderthal.
Wrong again. So very wrong, so very often.
Seriously, I'm starting to suspect that you are actually just trying to make Creationists look bad with these posts.
Just on AVERAGE you should get SOMETHING right at least once.

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Nuggin
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Message 612 of 1075 (622428)
07-03-2011 3:09 AM
Reply to: Message 608 by Portillo
07-03-2011 2:47 AM


Re: More evolved?
Come back to me when an animal besides a human builds a rocketship...
I asked you if you understood the term "moving the goal post" and you respond by moving the goal post.
This sort of dishonesty is frankly all we can expect from you people.
In all seriousness, are you *** on purpose because you think you'll trick people who are MORE educated than yourself into pretending to be ***? Or is it that you are just too *** to realize you are ***?
I know I'm going to hear from the admins about "debating the subject not the poster" but frankly I don't see the point.
I debated the subject. You lied. I pointed it out. You lied. I pointed that out too. You lied.
It seems that no matter what I post, you simply respond with lies.
So, frankly, the subject is: Why do Christians feel the need to *** all the time?

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Nuggin
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Message 623 of 1075 (622475)
07-03-2011 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 618 by Mazzy
07-03-2011 4:46 AM


Re: Ignorance
And they all bow down and give homage to likely, probably and maybe and likely
This from a girl with one arm.

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Nuggin
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Message 641 of 1075 (622696)
07-06-2011 3:44 AM
Reply to: Message 633 by Mazzy
07-05-2011 4:35 PM


Re: Turkana Boy again
Neanderthal supposedly had a receeding chin as some people have today. If he didn't he isn't human either.
So, Neanderthals aren't human despite the fact that their DNA makes up 8% of the genome of non-true Africans.
Brilliant.
Here's an idea. Instead of posting giant posts full of errors and then denying everything that people point out as wrong, why don't you just pick one thing to be wrong about and argue that one point.
That way it will be much more obvious to all that you are unwilling or unable to deal with the facts.

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Nuggin
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Message 642 of 1075 (622697)
07-06-2011 3:54 AM
Reply to: Message 625 by Portillo
07-04-2011 3:04 AM


After 150 years, evolutionary scientists have discovered a handful of disputed fossils and artist impressions.
First of all, you do realize that you are quoting a book that's 20 years out of date in your claims that we don't have enough evidence. That's sort of like me claiming there has never been a black president by giving you a list of Presidents from Washington to Reagan.
Further, "disputed"? Please. Just because YOU disagree with something doesn't make it "disputed".
And, I have to wonder, are you being a hypocrite here?
Are you saying that we lack sufficient evidence for our position IN COMPARISON to your evidence?
Tell us, after 2000 years, what evidence do you have of an actual Jesus? Got "a handful of undisputed Jesus fossils"?
I'll match you 1,000 to 1 for each and every piece of physical evidence you provide. How's that sound?
I know you have some. Otherwise, you'd be arguing in bad faith. Right?

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Nuggin
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Message 648 of 1075 (622807)
07-06-2011 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 644 by Mazzy
07-06-2011 2:39 PM


Re: Turkana Boy again
Perhaps you could start by reading what my posts actually say.
Your research is full of errors and contradictions. You can find research for multiple datings of neanderthal human split, research to suggest we evolved from neanderthal and research that suggests we didn't, research to say neanderthal and modern humans mated and other research that says we didn't.
Evolutionists remind me of magicians in that they can pull any variety of rabbit out of a hat that suits at the time and have the hide to call it evidence.
Effectively you have created your own myths to call evidence.
I asked you to pick ONE THING to be wrong about.
Instead you spew out a whole bunch.
Try again.
Pick ONE THING and stick to it. Argue that ONE THING. Admit when you are wrong.
If you won't pick, then I will.
You claimed that Australia had no humans on it until ~ 200 years ago.
Do you admit that you were wrong?

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Nuggin
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Message 649 of 1075 (622808)
07-06-2011 3:15 PM
Reply to: Message 645 by Coyote
07-06-2011 2:48 PM


Mazzy Gallop
No Gish Gallop -- just stick to this one subject and let's see what we can come up with, eh?
I'm wondering exactly how many times posters are going to have to request this before someone sits up and takes notice.

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Nuggin
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Message 650 of 1075 (622810)
07-06-2011 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 646 by Mazzy
07-06-2011 2:52 PM


Mazzy's Clock
Oh for goodness sake...the article is 20 years old and so what?
The article is 20 years old and says there is only X amount of fossils collected.
You are presenting it TODAY as though what were true 20 years ago about the number of fossils is still true today.
Are you unaware of the passage of time?
Are you unable to grasp the concept that more and more data accumulates over time?
Here, I'll try and explain it REALLY SLOW.
If Timmy gets one apple a year, and in 1980 he has 1 apple.
Then in 1981 he has 2 apples
In 1982 he has 3 apples.
In 1983 he has 4 apples.
Get some paper and follow along at home.
In 1984 he has 5 apples.
If you then show up and claim that 1984 Timmy has exact 1 apple because that's all he had in 1980, you would be:
Multiple choice here, be ready. Don't just shout out the first answer you see.
A) Right
B) Wrong
I'll give you a hint: The answer is "B) Wrong"
Do you understand why?
We can go over it again if we need to.

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Nuggin
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Message 654 of 1075 (622825)
07-06-2011 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 652 by Mazzy
07-06-2011 3:37 PM


Re: Mazzy's Clock
You call this stuff evidence. I call it myth.
Well, then I guess we found the problem. You don't have a working understanding of english

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Nuggin
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Message 661 of 1075 (622919)
07-07-2011 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 660 by Percy
07-07-2011 7:24 AM


Percy Beware!
I think what you're trying to say is that researchers create a mathematical model
No, what she's saying is that certainty = correct.
She believes 100% that she's right, therefore she is right.
You acknowledge that there are scientists who disagree with you, therefore you are wrong.
I tried to point out the flaws in this argument by explaining that if I was certain of something that was untrue (like the claim that she had one arm instead of two), it would not make it true.
That got me banned for 2 days.
Watch your step. Don't try and correct her on this error.

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Nuggin
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Message 693 of 1075 (623035)
07-07-2011 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 683 by Mazzy
07-07-2011 3:37 PM


Re: dates change
My argument better aligns with the EVIDENCE found.
You've posed no argument that aligns with any evidence whatsoever.
All you've done is declare everyone else wrong and yourself right because you believe you 100%.
Your complaint is that the hundreds of millions of scientists sometimes differ in opinion about .000001% of the evidence for evolution.
Meanwhile the Creationists all agree with each other.
Except, that claim isn't true, either.
So, what's left to argue.
You ignore all points and repeat your same made up crap. We point out that you're wrong, provide you with evidence and the education you missed then...
You ignore all the points and repeat you same made up crap all over again.

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Nuggin
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Message 695 of 1075 (623043)
07-07-2011 10:57 PM
Reply to: Message 694 by Mazzy
07-07-2011 10:35 PM


Try again Mazzy
The DNA comparisons, are rubbish. We have 75% DNA in common with a nematode.
That's not an argument. That's an assertion.
Assuming you are right with the "75%", how does that make DNA comparisons rubbish?
You don't get to make blanket statements if you can't support them with any sort of argument.
Try again.

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Nuggin
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Message 696 of 1075 (623044)
07-07-2011 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 694 by Mazzy
07-07-2011 10:35 PM


Think then post
In my opinion... what evolutionists actually propose as evidence for evolution is a mosaic of variations of ape, monkey etc as well as any non-human primate variations that have lived over the past 5 million years or so.
So, your "argument" is that evolution can't be real because there is 5 millions years worth of evidence supporting evolution.
Has anyone explained to how debate works? Claiming that your opponent is wrong because they have evidence which proves they are right isn't exactly the strongest argument you can make.

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Nuggin
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Message 704 of 1075 (623059)
07-08-2011 12:39 AM
Reply to: Message 702 by Mazzy
07-08-2011 12:04 AM


Re: Try again Mazzy
I have supported everrything I have said with scientific backing.
That's not true and you know it.
I gave you a specific example of how you were making blanket statements without bringing any supporting evidence.
Further, you seem to choose "scientific backing" by the word, not the sentence.
What scientific backing do you have for your claims that native Australians aren't people?
What scientific backing do you have that supports the idea that all scientists come to you for the daily updates on which skull belongs to which groups?
So far all we've heard from you is pronouncements and nothing to back them up.
Simply declaring "Erectus is not human" is NOT an argument. It's NOT debate. It's just you being wrong.
We've had plenty of evidence of your ability to be WRONG. What we'd like to see now is if you have the ability to put together an argument AT ALL.
Stop the Gish Gallop, pick ONE THING to be wrong about, and be WRONG about it in paragraph form.

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Nuggin
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Message 705 of 1075 (623060)
07-08-2011 12:42 AM
Reply to: Message 702 by Mazzy
07-08-2011 12:04 AM


How to falsify evolution
TOE is unfalsifiable just like creation and is a faith.
To Taq's "feather bat" I'll add the following:
A bunny skeleton in the stomach of a T-Rex
-Or-
ANY animal poofing into existence in a sealed chamber.
-Or-
Any evidence that mutation never occur - EVER.
-Or-
Any evidence that dead things produce more offspring than live things.
-Or-
Any evidence that offspring and the parent share NO DNA.
There's 6 or so ways to falsify evolution.
Tell us, how do we falsify "Jew Wizards use Magic"?

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