Another example of right wing evil

I don’t think the assumptions and character assassination I receive constantly are particularly helpful as well, I wish that could be placed to the side, but there seem to be a lot of people here who are into that.Example

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I was making an over the top comment, in jest

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Or you were revealing your homophobia

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The nonsense here at EvC never stops, ever. I find it hard to have any reason to not approach everything here as anything but crazy and ridiculous, like the above jumps in logic.See where I am coming from? One cannot take an opinion that is anything but left or else that person, by unknown logic to me, is automatically wrong, racist, homophobic, ignorant, or a multitude of other made-up insults.I do appreciate you (Straggler) actually asking questions and clarification, rather than the constant insinuations and name calling of those who hold different opinions than yourself, I am glad you don’t act like a bigot (something that is rather rare around here). Yes.I would think that the information is still coming from the home and the internet.Do you think that without this legislation anymore the information will be divulged? Is the proper information being divulged today, without this legislation? As conservatives we deal more in what’s appropriate, rather than if something is offensive or not. Obviously Tennessee thinks that Homosexuality should be a discussion that takes place at home until high school, I do not see this as a ban on the word homosexuality (or its synonyms). The whole don’t say gay idea was made up by the opponents in the media. If certain people get all their information from news outlets then that is on them (I aint the one). Good luck trying to ban a word in this country. The goal of the opponents, I think, is to make it look like this is a ban on a word. I don’t think so. This is to keep it out of the classroom in grade school, not to keep gay children in the dark. IMO If somebody comes out, it’s not to keep them away from information, it’s to not teach it in school until the state determines that the children are of the appropriate age/maturity/grade level (in this case 9th grade).If you are 16 and in 8th grade should the school provide driver’s education? Would it be discrimination to make legislation stating that driver’s education will not be taught in grades K-8? See I don’t think it bans any mention of it, that is not even possible IMHO. This is a curriculum thing, it’s not really don’t say gay, that is just the propaganda against it.The people in society that are that against homosexuality are a dying breed, in another 20 years they will be dead or in the minority, I know it sucks that we have to deal with them now, but that is reality. True. 1. No disagreement from me.
2. Well, it’s the closest guess I have, I’m not a republican anymore (too many Neocons).I know you live across the pond so bear with me (on the driving age, and things I take for granted that are probably different over there). There is an organization over here called the ACLU, they defend Nazis, and the KKK, and just about everyone, regardless of their ideals and what they preach, they defend people’s rights to take a stance no matter if it is unpopular or not (I am sure there is a similar organization over there.), the L in the acronym stands for Liberties. Defending other people’s liberties in the face of government is not always popular (especially around here). If this legislation came up here in Virginia I would be totally against it, but I am not going to sit here (1 state away), and tell people in another state how to live their lives, because I am a fan of liberties (I don’t care if non-liberty minded folk here make stuff up and call me names for it). I still do not see it as a restriction on speech, I don’t think that would fly around here.

Ahh, yes, the old FoxNews "quoting me directly is character assassination" ploy.If your character is so foul that a direct quote of your own words is "assassination" then perhaps you deserve to be assassinated. You argued that you were worried that 2nd graders were being taught BUTT FUCKING by homosexual teachers and that this law was needed to protect them from that. The implied point was that straight teachers teaching 2nd graders straight BUTT FUCKING would be A-OKAY in your book.How were we supposed to take that ASIDE from homophobia?Stop blaming us for QUOTING YOU. And stop crying like you need your diaper changed.This whole "Waaah, you're being mean!" line of arguing is _pathetic_!If you don't want to be quote, STFU. Jesus, move the goal posts again why don't you?So now your argument is that there is a LACK of information for straight kids so they REQUIRE sex-ed in school, meanwhile the abundance of gay information on the internet makes addressing that issue in school a waste of time and resources?LOL. Give me a break. Wow. You do realize that that is EXACTLY what the law is, right? That it can't be mentioned in school.Did you maybe stumble into the wrong thread? Keep following the yellow brick road, when you get to the palace ,they'll give you a brain. That's about the only answer this strawman deserves. Yes, and they defend people FROM laws like this.

Taz, if you go back in US history a mere 60 years and beyond pretty much world wide,, what you are calling right wing evil, was a matter of fact. This was when gays were in their closets, due to publica concensus regarding homosexuality.That was when gays meant happy fun type folks and gays were called queers and homos. They dared not come out of their closets.Why? Because gay is not natural. It is a deviation of what is normal, scientifically and culturally. It's the way humans were designed.ABE: Having said the above, I've had friends and associates in business for nearly 50 years. I get along with them fine. I treat them the same as anyone else. That, however doesn't change my thinking relative to what is a matter of fact about them. Edited by Buzsaw, : As noted. Edited by Buzsaw, : add word

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Where did you get that idea?

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Mmm, it didn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. When my wife & I got married we double checked out our natural organs and figured it out when we both slept in the same bed for the first time. Everything fit nicely, birth of children & all.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

No, my guess is that you take it from ancient tribal myth.But if you studied some anthropology you just might learn something about how the real world actually is.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Ooooooohh, conservative vs conservative. Fight fight fight fight fight fight fight!

Don't get all excited.I don't consider theo-cons to be conservatives. They are statists, as long as the state enforces their beliefs. You can't be a statist and a conservative.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

We should take a poll as to which group is more likely to be intloerant/bigoted: religious types or non-religious types. I've noticed lately that more often that not it is the religious types have a "you're different from me then fuck you" type attitude.Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

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"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

You want intolerance?Nobody beats the "progressives" for intolerance.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

... This was a good thing? No... Because they would fear for getting beaten up, facing prison sentences and even getting killed. It wasent always like this you know.Homosexuality has been accepted and seen as normal in several cultures during human history. The taboo that exist in the western world mostly stems from religion. I dont doubt you have. But you havent had any GAY friends. Atleast not if they knew about how you felt about their personal lives.
Imagine if you found out that a friend of yours, was against your marriage with your wife... if that friend told you, you werent normal. Would that person still be your friend? That they arent normal? That they are lesser beeings than you?

If ill ask you who those progressives are, and what they want, are you going to go all Glenn Beck on me?You see, im actually a socialist, im one those europeans too, and i get offended everytime someone calls Obama, Nancy Pelosi or the other democrats or their policies socialist.Not even a year have passed since the democrats voted against closing a loophole for the very rich to avoid paying income tax. They succeded and the very rich can still pay almost nothing in income tax.

I don't watch Glenn Beck. Sorry to hear that.I believe in working for my living and paying my own way.

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Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Grown men and adolescents, yes. Which I believe technically made them ephebophiles. Relationships between two grown men were usually seen as rather ridiculous unless they had originally begun in that way ("He who lifted the calf", they said, "can carry the bull.") No. It's what happened. I did not invite you to like it. Aren't the ancient Greeks part of the classical era any more? Hello? The Plato quote says (last sentence): "Or who would desert his beloved or fail him in the hour of danger?" I.e. they were both male.Is there any other passage you need my help in reading? I have given you references for every quotation. If you don't think they mean what they plainly do mean, you are free to look up the context for yourself. In Rome although homosexuality was accepted it was not institutionalized as it was in so many of the Greek states. I could give you innumerable examples of gay relationships between specific prominent Romans, but I would not describe it as integral to their system.

It's nice to know that you have some socialist principles.