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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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What does Iceland have that Hawaii doesn't? Backbone? Vision? Commitment? The better question would be what they dont have, American policies on energy , and crackpots like this Edited by frako, : No reason given.
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Malvern Junior Member (Idle past 4348 days) Posts: 20 From: Mesopotamia, Ohio USA Joined: |
I've always been puzzled by the Religious Right's resistance to the "Green Dragon"
What part of GEN 2:15 do they not understand. "And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it." Does that mean that since Adam and Eve got expelled from the garden that it's okay to let the whole thing go to Hell? (:raig
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Taz Member (Idle past 3319 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
CO2 is just a part of it. The bad boy is methane. I believe we've already passed the point of no return.
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Dunno to me it sounds its ok to take a shit in your bed somebody will clean it up eventually.
Now if it where only their bead they where shitting on i would have no problems with that but its also my bed and i want it clean.
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
I doubt that we are passed it i do think we are are very close to it though.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Malvern writes: What does Iceland have that Hawaii doesn't? Backbone? Vision? Commitment? The whole nation of Iceland sits on a geothermal power plant. quote: Edited by Buzsaw, : prematuely posted. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Malvern Junior Member (Idle past 4348 days) Posts: 20 From: Mesopotamia, Ohio USA Joined: |
The whole nation of Iceland sits on a geothermal power plant. ...and the big island of Hawaii sits on what, a glacier? Here is a perfect example of a great natural resource sitting untouchable in a national park. I can't believe that on the entire island of Hawaii (not the island chain), they can't find a spot for even a demonstration power plant? To me, that would be a heck of a tourist draw. Error retrieving uploaded document ...and meanwhile, here in the Great State of Ohio, our illustrious governor is going to "drill, baby, drill". Damn the tourists! Full drill ahead!" Wooster Daily Record Don't 'cha just love the consistency in the energy policies of this country? Oh, that's right. We don't have any. (:raig Edited by Malvern, : punctuation
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
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Malvern writes: ..and the big island of Hawaii sits on what, a glacier? On the earth's crust in the ocean, having a volatile volcano sitting in a relatively small area of the nation. How many power plants do you think could feasibly and safely installed to be fueled by the volcano? BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4172 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
Hi Buzz, just a few fact about geothermal energy, it is a rather broad group of technologies.
sourcequote: It is by no means a fix for our environment, but don't you think it should be utilized anywhere it can? The oil and gas companies probably wouldn't like it, but hey if Hawaii could produce clean cheap energy for itself then why not? Every green plant that could replace a fossil fuel plant is a step in the right direction. AbE .. As a state, all islands. Hawaii is a great candidate to produce a sizable amount of power using geothermal I would think. Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given. "No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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Malvern Junior Member (Idle past 4348 days) Posts: 20 From: Mesopotamia, Ohio USA Joined: |
Buzsaw writes: How many power plants do you think could feasibly and safely installed to be fueled by the volcano? I don't know how many Buz. So, I'd start with a pilot facility somewhere along Route 11 on the Big Island. Probably to the South or Southeast. Surface lava flows are too unpredictable, so I would think a slant drill toward the laval plume would be the way to go. The further Northwest you go, the (relatively) safer it is since the entire movment of the island chain is to the Northwest away from the laval plume. The facility can be served by Hilo to the Northeast. Hilo, with 40K population, has an international airport, residential and commercial facilities and an extention of the University of Hawaii. The whole point is to get something started. Show the rest of the nation and the world that we can tap into the natural resources right under our feet and not rely on oil tankers to bring fuel for the power plants. (:raig Edited by Malvern, : text edits
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4172 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
The whole point is to get something started. Show the rest of the nation and the world that we can tap into the natural resources right under our feet and not rely on oil tankers to bring fuel for the power plants. Hi Malvern, I thought you might find this interesting, this looks a lot like what you have in mind.
quote: "No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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Malvern Junior Member (Idle past 4348 days) Posts: 20 From: Mesopotamia, Ohio USA Joined: |
Hawaii is a great candidate to produce a sizable amount of power using geothermal I would think. I'd take it one step further, and there is increasing support for this. Why do you need gasoline powered cars in Hawaii? It is a perfect test bed for electric propulsion. Recharged by geothermal electric generation? Hells Bells. Why not? (:raig
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4172 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
Few facts about world production of geothermal power from a great source on all types of energy.
quote: I'd take it one step further, and there is increasing support for this. Why do you need gasoline powered cars in Hawaii? It is a perfect test bed for electric propulsion. Recharged by geothermal electric generation? Hells Bells. Why not? Maybe , if the infrastructure was in place, rental car companies could recive some type of tax credit for switching there fleet over, got to be big business in Hawaii. No sales tax on electric cars bought in Hawaii maybe as an incentive to switch... Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given. "No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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Malvern Junior Member (Idle past 4348 days) Posts: 20 From: Mesopotamia, Ohio USA Joined: |
The Puna Geothermal Venture facility is the first and only commercial scale geothermal plant in Hawaii. It produces about 30 MW of power, or 20 percent of the island’s needs. That’s enough electricity for 30,000 residents and visitors. Today PGV saves Hawaii Electric Light Co. (HELCO) more than 144,000 barrels of oil a year. Just what I thought. All the power resources you could imagine, but you have to run a l-o-o-o-o-n-g (and expensive) extension cord over to Oahu. That's where political backbone comes in. It still may come to pass. At least they're going in the right direction. (:raig
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Malvern Junior Member (Idle past 4348 days) Posts: 20 From: Mesopotamia, Ohio USA Joined: |
Taz writes: CO2 is just a part of it. The bad boy is methane. I believe we've already passed the point of no return. So, in your opinion Taz, are we just pissing on a forest fire with all this talk of CO2 capture and "reduced carbon footprint"? (:raig
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