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Author Topic:   Subjective Evidence of Gods
hooah212002
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Message 80 of 468 (624941)
07-20-2011 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Mazzy
07-20-2011 4:45 PM


Re: Subjective Evidence of Gods
I agree with you Chuck77. Prayer answering or not is not in itself proof for or against a God.
When i was a christian, I prayed. None of my prayers were answered. I guess we can end the debate now? We just proved the non-existence of god? Oh, wait. you'll probably say that I didn't truly believe or didn't truly have jeebus in my heart.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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Message 229 of 468 (630279)
08-23-2011 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 226 by Straggler
08-23-2011 1:16 PM


Re: Detecting Intelligent Agency Where There Is None
Last Thursdayism. An invisible killer bogeyman in your bedroom. Immaterial toilet goblins, the fifty two and a half pixies that set the universe in motion, the Immaterial Pink Unicorn, the Ethereal Yellow Squirrel, Vishnu, Allah, The Christian God, Mookoo, Wagwah, the incorporeal god chewed bubble-gum that holds the universe in place on the back of the immaterial green turtle as it wades through the invisible aether, Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, Catholic Scientist's concept of god, the tooth fairy, the garage dragon and other imaginable but irrefutable concepts that the human brain can conceive of.
But how many of those things are even attributed to atheism? It seems to me that atheism (and atheists alike) are more attibuted to "the current crop of gods" so to speak. In that aspect, EVERYONE is an atheist, some just go one god further than others.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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hooah212002
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Message 242 of 468 (630381)
08-24-2011 8:12 PM
Reply to: Message 241 by GDR
08-24-2011 7:54 PM


Re: subjective appearances of the moral code
it still appears to exist as something that exists regardless of human brain activity
Surely you need to think this one through a bit more....
Sam Harris addresses just this:

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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hooah212002
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Message 248 of 468 (630443)
08-25-2011 9:57 AM
Reply to: Message 243 by GDR
08-24-2011 9:53 PM


Re: subjective appearances of the moral code
You said:
it still appears to exist as something that exists regardless of human brain activity.
You appear to be saying that people have the same moral capacity regardless of brain activity. It is shown, with evidence, that people behave differently when physical harm is done to their physical brain.
If I take a perfectly serviceable DVD and put into a malfunctioning computer then what I get on the screen and in the speakers can be scrambled. That doesn't mean that the DVD can't be removed from my computer and put into another one where it will function perfectly.
That analogy doesn't follow. What YOU seem to be implying is that you can put a non-functioning dvd (brain damage) into a non-functioning dvd player (damage to the body) and still get a picture. When in reality, it is shown that as soon as the dvd is scratched, the picture quality (mind) degrades.
If you have hard evidence that says otherwise, I'm willing to listen.

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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