Message 31 of 68 (625193) 07-21-2011 6:13 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminthic_therapy

I dont know shit about medicine but it shouldn't hurt to ask.

Message 32 of 68 (625196) 07-21-2011 6:35 PM

Reply to: Message 1 by Taz 07-20-2011 3:03 PM

That's awesome.

Hey at least you're not hispanic or black.

You should see my latin testicles, totally adorable.

- Oni

Message 33 of 68 (625197) 07-21-2011 7:08 PM

Reply to: Message 27 by frako 07-21-2011 5:18 PM

(I see my link hones in on the home page rather than the article.

quote:

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Self Care
Boost your immunity naturally by altering your eating and exercise habits.

Nutritionists recommend a diet high in fresh vegetables and fruit, whole grains, brown rice, low-fat dairy products, fish and poultry. A daily multivitamin should be taken. Exercise daily if possible.

Scientists believe multiple factors such as environmental toxins, heredity, viruses, and certain drugs may play a role in causing an autoimmune disease.

Stress, poor diet, lack of exercise, lack of sleep, abuse of alcohol and use of tobacco can also weaken the immune system and may play some role as well.

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The problem with the conventional drug approach which targets the symptom rather than the whole system is that agents which have bad side effects leave the system holistically weaker as is the case with so many prescribed treatments. About all it does is to buy you some time (albeit in misery) before you croak.

Isn't the logic of real science wonderful?

Message 34 of 68 (625199) 07-21-2011 7:21 PM

Reply to: Message 33 by Buzsaw 07-21-2011 7:08 PM

Your holistic woo may have worked just fine for your family, but the plural of "anecdote" is not "data." Exercising, eating healthy foods, getting enough sleep, avoiding stress, and taking vitamins is good advice even for healthy individuals. But it's not enough when you have a real medical problem.

You needed to take a kid to a doctor over a broken arm. Taz's medical issue is a heritable genetic disorder, not something that he can solve just by cutting out the junk food. People with actual autoimmune disorders and diseases often require real medication for their entire lives. HIV patients who try your holistic woo will wind up with AIDS; transplant patients will wind up with rejected organs.

Message 35 of 68 (625200) 07-21-2011 7:25 PM

Reply to: Message 33 by Buzsaw 07-21-2011 7:08 PM

Yes. Isn't the logic of stupid idiot morons fun to laugh at?

Message 36 of 68 (625206) 07-21-2011 8:06 PM

Reply to: Message 33 by Buzsaw 07-21-2011 7:08 PM

Stuff that has evidence and study behind them no diet mentioned

The word MAY pops out docent it includes your diet plan treatment.

So how do scientists treat autoimmune desieases ????? Diet that boosts the immunesystem????

No they use immunosuppressives that supress the immune system making it weaker.

Why so it does not cause so much dammage.

Think of the immune system as a guard dog in some cases the guard dog gets hyperactive and tries to kill your other pets the goldfish the cat the hamster you are proposing to give the guard dog a shot of adrenalin, scientists give him a sedative.

Message 37 of 68 (625211) 07-21-2011 8:25 PM

Reply to: Message 35 by hooah212002 07-21-2011 7:25 PM

There's $100 in it if you do.

- Oni

Message 38 of 68 (625213) 07-21-2011 8:45 PM

The problem with rare conditions is most people don't understand or are unwilling to believe its a real condition.

remember that not too long ago autistic kids were just brats.

Message 40 of 68 (625224) 07-21-2011 9:17 PM

Reply to: Message 1 by Taz 07-20-2011 3:03 PM

I hope you win the battle and the war.

Message 41 of 68 (625227) 07-21-2011 9:20 PM

Reply to: Message 40 by purpledawn 07-21-2011 9:17 PM

Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

Message 43 of 68 (625241) 07-21-2011 10:30 PM

Reply to: Message 41 by Taz 07-21-2011 9:20 PM

I can relate to some of it, as my cancer is incurable and it is a lymphoma that lives in my immune system.

I had an autogenetic stem cell transplant of my white blood cells to try to rid myself of the cancerous cells. It did not work entirely, but knocked it down from level 3 to level 1 (which is more treatable with chemotherapy). So far I am in remission, with the last treatment in april 2010.

They can also do an allogeneic transplant, where the white cells come from a compatible donor (usually family). You would have to take suppression drugs to keep them new cells from attacking you -- so that sounds like the fix you are already in.

http://children.webmd.com/allogeneic-stem-cell-transplant

Too bad stem cell research has been so (expletive deleted) handicapped for the last decade . . . as that could offer a solution that would not need the suppression drugs.

Wish I could help.

Paul

Edited by RAZD, : link

Message 44 of 68 (625251) 07-21-2011 11:28 PM

Reply to: Message 38 by Taz 07-21-2011 8:45 PM

Whatever gave you he notion that I don't think you have a real condition? There are wholistic cancer regimes, mostly outlawed in the US which effectively treat real conditions; some of the deadliest like terminal cancer.

Regarding cancer, the regime must be applied before the liver has tanked. Way back in the 1970s a man named Max Gerson was effectively treating terminal cancer patients by flushing the system with raw carrot juice and liver extract supplement, etc. I have a newspaper investigative reporter's book, Has Dr. Max Gerson A True Cancer Cure.. The reporter set out to expose Gerson as a quack and ended up writing his book which summed up by saying (1) that the American Cancer Society and the AMA found it more profitable to look for cures than to find them and (2) that these organizations did not want to admit that Gerson's simplistic regime could do what their millions extracted from the sheeple for conventional methods failed to do.

The reason Gerson ended up treating terminal patients is that they would come to him as a last resort after the conventional methods failed.

He and other wholistic docs in the US have been banned from treating patients, due to the power of the drug cartels in bed with the FDA, all about $$$ and power.

In recent years I've developed the symptoms of skin lymphoma on my face and ears. I've been dealing with it solely holistically via a fairly strict diet regime, applications of a non-drug product called Perrin's Blend, a solution of aloe vera juice and vitamin E oil which I mix, comfrey poultices, etc. It's taken some time, but my face is nearly healed up.

It appears to have been isolated to the skin lymph nodes, likely by sun exposure rather than systemic from other organs, indicative that the sun had a lot to do with it.

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Message 45 of 68 (625254) 07-21-2011 11:41 PM

Reply to: Message 1 by Taz 07-20-2011 3:03 PM

Thanks, I feel much better.

But I'm still sad to hear that you're ill. Good luck.