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Buzsaw
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Message 19 of 182 (625597)
07-24-2011 10:25 AM


Re: Gish Gallop & Confinement
Regarding the Gish Gallop, at least Gish was one opponent doing the galloping. The real challenge comes when a creationist gets a whole pack galloping at him and the debate mods egging them on.
Unlike Hovind, I'm not a YEC. However, IMO, were it not for his creationist ideology Hovind would have been out on parole by now.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 23 of 182 (625604)
07-24-2011 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by hooah212002
07-24-2011 11:16 AM


Re: Gish Gallop & Confinement
You don't know what a Gish Gallop is, do you?
I do, but if you don't get the connection in my message, perhaps you had better look up it's meaning for yourself.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 109 of 182 (626757)
07-31-2011 9:00 AM


Hovind Singled Out
I knew one man who lived and died a tax protester, not unlike Hovind and I know of one living, not unlike Hovind, a long time tax protester. There are many other lifetime un-prosecuted tax protesters, some deceased and some still alive.
Perhaps it would take a constitutional amendment to lawfully convict these folks, or perhaps, were they prosecuted, the government is concerned about opening some cans of worms, so to speak, which they want kept closed.
I believe the reason Hovind got busted is because of his notoriety as a creationist, whether or not his science was well founded.
Though Hovind, like other YECs, considered himself to be a Biblical literalist, in reality, he was not. He was a very intelligent and witty debater who convinced a lot of the creationist minded sheeple into believing he was a Biblical literalist, but he did not reason out what Genesis one says regarding the timing of the creation of the celestial bodies of the Solar System relative to the role of the sun and moon, etc.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 120 of 182 (626788)
07-31-2011 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 110 by Dr Adequate
07-31-2011 9:34 AM


Re: Hovind Singled Out
Dr Adequate writes:
How much did they steal?
Given what the Bible says about respect for civil authority, are you planning to turn them in?
I'm not convinced that they are not supported by the constitution of the US of A. Jesus advocated to render to Caesar, i.e. the government what was Caesar's and to God what was God's.
These folks are convinced in their own minds that they are fulfilling their obligations to Caesar. If they are not, why is the government not going after all of them as was the case with Hovind? Why have many lived and died, never having been prosecuted?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 121 of 182 (626790)
07-31-2011 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 115 by frako
07-31-2011 10:09 AM


Re: People Who Laugh
frako writes:
As for the creationist claims cmmon just look at why do people laugh at creationists on youtube 34 episodes of pure bullshit and explenations why it is bullshit.
The majority secularistic population will always laugh at creationist minded phenomena but the same majority are fine with the secularistic notion that the universe's origin/genesis had no existing area in which to have happened, no time in which to have happened and no outside of into which to have expanded.
Edited by Buzsaw, : Fixing submit problem
Edited by Buzsaw, : 2nd attempt to fix "submit"

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 123 of 182 (626793)
07-31-2011 11:17 AM
Reply to: Message 122 by jar
07-31-2011 11:08 AM


Re: Hovind Singled Out
jar writes:
It really is simple.
Either the Government is unaware of them or they are simply so totally irrelevant and unimportant to be worth the cost of going after them.
Why thanks, jar; thanks very much, for inadvertently making my point as to why the government singled out Hovind for prosecution. It had to be, therefore, other than evasion for singling him out. No?

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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