WTF is going on in London

I was wondering the same thing. I was gone for a week (GenCon Indy 2011), and heard about this when I got back yesterday, but when I looked it up all the news was about the damage and what was going on and not the why.at 1st I thought maybe their national soccer team finally didn't suck for once, but I think that is not the case.It seems that the police suck everywhere even in jolly ol UK.

I am not sure of the validity of this source, but there is a new article (yesterday) from a group called the guardian.Mark Duggan handgun tests show conversion into lethal weapon | England riots 2011 | The GuardianThis article states that Duggan had a replica handgun that was converted to fire live ammunition. I think this would be incredibly difficult to produce, especially for someone without access to a lathe. It smells real fishy to me, as the anti-gun crowd on this side of the pond uses similar reasoning to attempt to ban toy guns.It also states that the bullet recovered from a police radio was the same type of ammo fired by the police, which would point to Duggan not firing first somehow?its all very confusing and hard to determine what is going on over there. Converted guns, was the suspect armed? did he shoot at the police? it is definitely a hot mess. It is slightly amusing that the "gangstas" over there have replica guns.Thanks for the POV straggler.It seems as if the police were too heavy handed (as they usually are).

common that replicas are converted?I found a UK site that sell replica glock-17s that fire 9mm blanks, but in order to convert it you would basically need to make a gun, you would have to tool the barrel, get an appropriate magazine, and more importantly obtain ammunition that is only for firearms that are illegal.I guess its possible, but I wouldn't think it would be common.

I would not argue against that. right tools is a big one. I find it odd that the people accused of perpetrating the police action are always described as low income, uneducated thugs, yet they have the know how and access to a machine shop to create illegal weapons. it really depends on the craftsmanship of the replica and what it is composed of. even if converted properly to fire live ammo, I doubt many could handle much more than a few shots. parts from real firearms. right so you need to purchase a real barrel, or machine the one you have. the firing mechanism on replicas is designed to fire blanks, though they are not always chambered to the original ammo size.for example: M 1911 IMPROVED .45 GOVERNMENT AUTOMATIC BLANK FIRNG REPLICA GUNthis is a replica colt model 1911, that fires blanks, but the blanks and the chamber are for 8mm. it has a magazine, and feeds, but try putting some .45 ammo in there and see what happens. I think the brass would be harder to get than the bullets. you can make the bullets in your garage with a mold and some extra lead. once you have the brass you can reload it

well duh. when the police shoot unarmed subjects, and they (the police) are all over the place, I would think everyone would chill out a bit, for fear of getting shot. word. I also haven't experienced anything like that either, I would not leave the house unarmed (well come to think of it I never do anyway). be careful d00d. It seems like every other report is he did then he didn't. I guess it depends on who you talk to. the police say he did (but of course they would), and vise versa. They love shooting unarmed people, especially in the back, and then saying they were armed, they do it all the time there and here. ok. thanks, I just don't know what is run by Murdoch over there and what isn't. BBC is the main one for me, because I know its not a tabloid. well that would make sense. It is just weird to me because getting a gun here is so easy, and many of us here are in the gun culture (its almost un-American not to be). Police here do exactly the same thing.