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Rrhain
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Message 48 of 404 (566739)
06-26-2010 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Huntard
06-24-2010 7:50 AM


Huntard writes:
quote:
if they call themselves that, why can't I?
Because a term used by a member of the group that it is an insult against carries a different tone than it being used by a member outside of that group.
In the former case, it is an indicator of "we." In the latter case, it is an indicator of "you" (or "they"). When someone in the group uses it, the trust dynamic is that it most likely isn't being used in a derogatory fashion. When someone outside the group uses it, the trust dynamic is that it is most likely is being used in a derogatory fashion.
It's the same concept regarding terms of familiarity. The terms of endearment that your beloved can get away with calling you don't mean the same when coming from someone else. They tend to be regarded as sarcastic and/or condescending. When your beloved says, "Sweetie, honey, baby, pussycat," it doesn't mean the same thing as when the used car salesmen lets loose with that phrase.
This is more easily seen in languages that have the formal and familiar versions of "you." The use of the familiar implies a social relationship. To get away with using "nigger" requires that a social background must be established to support the use of the word. It is difficult for someone outside the group to demonstrate that social background in general.

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.

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Rrhain
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Message 380 of 404 (629462)
08-18-2011 12:23 AM
Reply to: Message 379 by hooah212002
08-17-2011 6:38 PM


hooah212002 writes:
quote:
I may be wrong, but didn't Ron Paul kinda start the Tea Party?
No, it was pretty much created by Fox News. You may recall that they had their little "Tea Party Protest" for tax day in 2010 with their hosts holding rallies in several cities (which, of course, is completely "fair and balanced" and an example of their slogan of "we report, you decide" and not at all them creating the news, no, sir.)

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.

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