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kbertsche Member (Idle past 2131 days) Posts: 1427 From: San Jose, CA, USA Joined: |
nlerd writes:
Yes, according to the Genesis 1 creation account, man is the pinnacle and goal of God's creation. And yes, God could have created the universe in any way that He wished. He could have created it all last Thursday and placed us here with realistic memories, if He wished. So why did He do it this way? I think David gives a hint:
So far as I understand God created all that exists for man (am I wrong in that assumption?), if that is the case then why is the universe so vast? Seems to be a huge waste of space seeing as how man's purpose (whatever that is) should be achievable on Earth.... What I'm trying to get at is why would God create one small habitable zone in a massive dead universe? Whats the point of all that useless space out there? I'm not asking why the universe is the size that it is, I'm asking why would GOD make it that big? quote:Perhaps the reason God made such a huge universe is to show us our intrinsic insignificance, to help us see that our true significance comes only through Him? "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." — Albert Einstein I am very astonished that the scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient. It gives us a lot of factual information, puts all of our experience in a magnificently consistent order, but it is ghastly silent about all and sundry that is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. It cannot tell us a word about red and blue, bitter and sweet, physical pain and physical delight; it knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good or bad, God and eternity. Science sometimes pretends to answer questions in these domains, but the answers are very often so silly that we are not inclined to take them seriously. — Erwin Schroedinger
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DWIII Member (Idle past 1752 days) Posts: 72 From: United States Joined: |
kbertsche writes:
nlerd writes:
Yes, according to the Genesis 1 creation account, man is the pinnacle and goal of God's creation.
So far as I understand God created all that exists for man (am I wrong in that assumption?), if that is the case then why is the universe so vast? Seems to be a huge waste of space seeing as how man's purpose (whatever that is) should be achievable on Earth.... What I'm trying to get at is why would God create one small habitable zone in a massive dead universe? Whats the point of all that useless space out there? I'm not asking why the universe is the size that it is, I'm asking why would GOD make it that big? Well, aren't we special?
kbertsche writes:
And yes, God could have created the universe in any way that He wished. He could have created it all last Thursday and placed us here with realistic memories, if He wished. So why did He do it this way? I think David gives a hint:
quote:Perhaps the reason God made such a huge universe is to show us our intrinsic insignificance, Ooops, not so special after all...
kbertsche writes:
to help us see that our true significance comes only through Him?
What conceivable purpose does humiliating one's own children serve? Oh, yeah, like you said, to vicariously puff up the parent's ego. Perhaps the reason God made such a huge universe is so that we could grow up already, leave the crib* behind, and learn to rely on ourselves. *i.e., Earth.
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iano Member (Idle past 1940 days) Posts: 6165 From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland. Joined:
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DWII writes: What conceivable purpose does humiliating one's own children serve? Oh, yeah, like you said, to vicariously puff up the parent's ego. Sounding remarkably (and somewhat ironically) like something that would fall from the lips of an unruly, rebellious child.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Or from the lips of a reasonable child talking about an abusive father.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3668 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
Is not size only applicable to the components of the universe if those componenets never existed before the universe?
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4145 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
Is not size only applicable to the components of the universe if those componenets never existed before the universe? What? I have no idea of what you mean?
OFF TOPIC - Please Do Not Respond to this message by continuing in this vein. AdminPD Edited by AdminPD, : Warning: Not a humor thread or a chat page"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten." Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
nlerd writes: So far as I understand God created all that exists for man (am I wrong in that assumption?), if that is the case then why is the universe so vast? Seems to be a huge waste of space seeing as how man's purpose (whatever that is) should be achievable on Earth. Maybe God has other projects going on in other parts of the universe? To begin with, I applaud your method of asking questions. I am assuming that you are not looking for the "correct" answers to such a philosophical topic since there likely are none!
Four Reasons Why Questions are Better than Answers Rather than looking for answers per se, except to learn how others think, lets compile a list of questions, shall we? 1) IF God exists, is God concerned primarily with humans and humanity, or was that something that WE read into it? 2) Is there intelligent life in other parts of the universe? Are we humans making the same error we made in times past, where we thought that the Sun went around the earth?
Anthropocentrism nlerd writes: What I'm trying to get at is why would God create one small habitable zone in a massive dead universe? Whats the point of all that useless space out there? I'm not asking why the universe is the size that it is, I'm asking why would GOD make it that big? 3) If God exists, what characteristics does He?She/It have?
nlerd writes: MOST current day Christians seem think of the Bible as the Word of God, regardless of who wrote it. 4) IF God exists, is it possible to communicate with Him?(Her,It)
Buzsaw writes: Which brings up many questions...namely, will God wipe out the entire universe for the benefit (or judgement)of earth?
Imo, it's arrogant of itty bitty humans, existing on this speck in our Solar System called Planet Earth, which is a tiny speck in our Milky Way Galaxy, being, itself a tiny speck amongst all of the existing billions of galaxies, etc, to think that theirs is the highest level of existence existing in this vast wonderful Universe. And the heavens departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.~Revelation 6:14
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