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Theodoric
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Message 9 of 47 (631748)
09-02-2011 6:43 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Dr Adequate
09-02-2011 6:16 PM


So does this have anything to do with global warming?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Message 19 of 47 (631790)
09-03-2011 8:49 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by PaulK
09-03-2011 2:23 AM


Re: Perhaps you should read a better newspaper?
Here is the important takeaway from that article.

quote:
Some climate change "sceptics" claim that this process, rather than the burning of fossil fuels, can explain much of the Earth's recent rise in temperature.

Climate scientists point out that there is evidence to show that the sustained rise in global temperatures over the past 15 years cannot be explained by cosmic ray activity. They also point to a vast body of research pointing to rising carbon dioxide (CO2) levels to be the cause. According to Professor Lockwood, it is very unlikely that variations in cosmic rays have played a significant role in recent warming.


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I guess this completely undermines the article GDR presented.


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Message 20 of 47 (631792)
09-03-2011 9:20 AM
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09-02-2011 5:13 PM


Seems like Lorne Gunter does not allow things as trivial as facts to get in the way of his ideology.

Here is a review of a previous column by him.

Fact checking, National Post style: Lorne Gunter on global cooling

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In the wake of the kerfuffle concerning George Will’s column on sea ice in the Washington Post, Lorne Gunter has upped the ante in the Canadian daily newspaper National Post with a particularly error-ridden and nonsensical column on a favourite theme – the supposed “intellectual dishonesty” of climate scientists who refuse to accept the “fact” of “global cooling”.

A key issue in the Will case was the apparent failure of fact checkers and editors to catch what should have been obvious errors. Like Will, Gunter appears to lean on tidbits from such reliable sources as U.S. senator James Inhofe’s climate disinformation clearing house (run by aide Marc Morano), or blogs like Stephen Mcintyre’s Climateaudit.org or Anthony Watt’s Wattsupwiththat.com. Gunter then proceeds to somehow mangle even those dubious assertions.

Judging by this latest column, any checking appears designed to ensure that no actual facts actually appear. If so, the fact checkers have done a particularly outstanding job.



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Message 45 of 47 (635203)
09-27-2011 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by AZPaul3
09-27-2011 6:25 PM


Below freezing already
We have already had the first killing frosts of the year.

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