You're entitled to your personal opinions, but when you say that the Mac's "processor sux" it's hard to avoid the conclusion that you don't know what you are talking about. What processor do you think Apple should be using ? Sparc ? Power 5 ? Itanium ?
There's an iPad app for YouTube that seems to work fine, and I've had no problem watching vidoes from Hulu, Netflix, etc. The Flash limitation seemed inconvenient when I first heard about it, but I guess for the things I use the iPad for I never run into it. Or on our Mac's either.
The youtube app is subpar. Why not just use the real thing? I have an iphone (probably the worst phone I have ever had), so I am not speaking from complete ignorance here. I am not a big fan of paying more for an inferior product, call me crazy.
Whoever said these new devices are simply toys is completely correct.
PaulK writes:
The games aren't bad either. If you're into board/card game adaptions, the iPad may be one of the better platforms around.
Looks like blast!!! LOL!
The 1980’s called. Atari wants their 8-bit graphics back.
Yeah collect those stars and butterflies! If this for 10 year old girls?
I may have evaded the question but you are evading the whole thread and topic. by evading your attempted thread jacking I am actually staying on topic.
intel doesn't make chip for the products that are relevant to this topic. Intel makes the chips for the tabletop and notebook Mac computers, in this thread we are talking about the "post-PC" arrival of tablets, and smartphones. Samsung make the A4 and A5 chips for those. Do you know what you are talking about?
Can you? You're the one who's responding from nothing more than pique and close-minded defensiveness.
You do realize that Android is not a system that will not change don't you? I am not sure what your comment about cell phones has to do with anything. It is obvious that there will be multiple flavours of Android for multiple devices.
And that's the problem. Absent a defined hardware platform, software developers for Android will have to design to the minimal platform, which means people with more advanced Android handsets and tablets will be limited to apps that, for the most part, won't take advantage of the hardware.
quote:The results of a survey of 250 working developers suggest that though more developers are actively creating apps for Android, they also have serious concerns about the platform. The survey was conducted by Baird’s William Powers, and released Monday. Among the concerns are device fragmentation, store fragmentation, app visibility, and the ability to get paid.
Android is not a Java platform. It is based on the Linux kernel.
Though based on a Linux kernel, Android is very much a Java platform. It uses the Dalvik VM to process application and interface code and its application frameworks are all Java. (iOS is a Objective C platform running on a Darwin kernel, which is a kind of modified BSD.)
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I may have evaded the question but you are evading the whole thread and topic. by evading your attempted thread jacking I am actually staying on topic.
You chose to start on Macs, rather than tablets:
I see your point, but then aren't these Mac prodcuts kind of a joke then?
"Mac". Not "iPad" or "Apple" or "tablet". "Mac".
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intel doesn't make chip for the products that are relevant to this topic. Intel makes the chips for the tabletop and notebook Mac computers, i
In other words, Intel makes the chips in every current Mac. Every new "Mac product" coming off the assembly line.
On the tablet side, the Apple-designed A5 chip in the iPad2 is a match for the nVidia Tegra 2 chips used in Android 3 tablets. Both are dual-core ARM Cortex A9 designs, running at very similar clockspeeds. Only the Apple chip has a more powerful graphics engine built in. Looks to me as if the Apple chip is at least as good as those that the competition is using.
The youtube app is subpar. Why not just use the real thing?
You can use the real thing. I'm looking at Youtube's site in my iPhone right now and videos work just fine. Flash sucks, everybody knows that.
Yeah collect those stars and butterflies! If this for 10 year old girls?
Yeah yeah, 4chan, everybody says that until they play it. Of course, if you really want to put the GPU to work, you have to play something like Infinity Blade:
I dunno, looks about as good as my Xbox 360:
One thing I would like to see would be benchmarks for these two GPU's. I'd be interesting to see how they stack up. Of course, one advantage of the iPhone is that the games are usually under ten dollars, but the games for dedicated portable platforms like the PSP or the DS are usually 30-40. (Although I did pay 16 bucks for FF Tactics on the iPhone, but only because that's like the best game ever made in all of history.)
I see your point, but then aren't these Mac prodcuts kind of a joke then?
Kind of, but not really. They're good for the computer un-savvy.
Facetime on the iPhone has been very beneficial for me.
This one time, I was teaching a friend (in another state) how to play an MMO via Facetime. It was nice to be able to swap to the front facing camera and show them exactly what to click on and what they should see, etc. Just sat the phone in front of my monitor and we had a little video conference going while they were learning.
the internet is even worse. so now I can have a wifi accepting tablet, or I can get on the 3G network on a data plan. WTF!?! what a lame con game.
Oh, I'd never pay for a data plan for a tablet like that... that is con-ish. But there's shit piles of free wifi's around, so that part is pretty cool.
There's no GAMING!1! at the gate waiting for a plane, but there is gaming and that does pass the time.
If you had a laptop there could be.
Nope, laptops can't run my gamez... but I'm hardcore like that.
that you can't call people on and costs 2-3times as much to play puzzle games on.
Now now, there are some good looking games on the iPhone. Even FPS's...
You're the one who's responding from nothing more than pique and close-minded defensiveness.
You really need to learn how to read what people actually say not your fantasy of what they say.
Close-minded defensiveness?
Theodoric writes:
I do not find it inferior either but I do not find it superior.
THeodoric writes:
You may have read earlier, if you had read with an open mind, that the final decision will rest upon what will work best with her new clinic software.
Theodoric writes:
I may have to go with Apple and I am ok with that. I just have a preference.
Theodoric writes:
We will see what happens with the next generation Tegra chip and new OS. It may suck. It may show that the IOS and Ipad are the way to go.
In the words of Inigo Montoya
And that's the problem. Absent a defined hardware platform, software developers for Android will have to design to the minimal platform, which means people with more advanced Android handsets and tablets will be limited to apps that, for the most part, won't take advantage of the hardware.
Yeah that certainly killed the application development for Intel based pc's didn't it.
I mean, developers have already noticed:
Not a concern of mine. The medical software programs we need either have very robust support for android or are web based.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
Yeah that certainly killed the application development for Intel based pc's didn't it.
It's certainly always been detrimental to gaming on the PC. There's usually a five-year lag between new features released in the new DirectX version and the release of any games that actually take advantage of them, and that's much longer than the dev cycle for a video game would suggest (and devs are given pre-release access to DirectX tools, as well.) It's just that game devs don't design for the latest hardware, they design for the common hardware. And until everybody had a video card that supported DX11, for instance, there was nothing to be gained by designing games to it.
iOS devices are a walled garden, and that comes with limitations. But the limitations, in most people's opinion, are more than overshadowed by the more consistent interface, the curated app store, and the defined hardware.
The medical software programs we need either have very robust support for android or are web based.
Look, buy whatever your wife wants. I seriously don't care. The only thing I wanted to get to the bottom of was why you thought needing an iTunes account - which, incidentally, you only need one on the iOS if you want to buy apps and music - was a dealbreaker. I'm still not very clear on the concept, here, and it's because you refuse to do anything but vent your spleen at me. We can pick this up again when you're prepared to be more dispassionate.
The only thing I wanted to get to the bottom of was why you thought needing an iTunes account
Maybe if you read every line in peoples posts you would understand what they are saying just a little bit better.
Theodoric writes:
I am a freaky privacy issue type of guy. Apple is terrible in the realm of privacy. So is Google. The difference is I have already sold my soul to Google and see no reason to sell it to a different devil.
Also, I have had to deal with the Itunes people in the past. For 2 years I received the email notice of some woman's purchases on Itunes. Obviously she had put in a typo for her email and instead gave them my email address. I tried 3 times to contact Itunes to explain the issue. But they make it almost impossible to speak to a human being. After 3 nicely worded emails with no response or resolution, I started calling different Apple corporate #'s. For 3 months they gave me the runaround or told me that unless the account holder changed the email address there was nothing they could do. Basically, they told me to fuck off.
Finally I contacted Apple corporate security. I informed them that unless something was done I would continue to escalate it until something was done. Once the right people were made aware of the problem it was resolved immediately. Apple treated me like crap when I tried to inform them of a potential privacy issue for one of their customers. This is not the type of company I want to do business with.
Is Google better? I doubt it. As a matter of fact I know they are not any better, but as I said earlier.
The difference is I have already sold my soul to Google and see no reason to sell it to a different devil.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
I, for one, will go home this evening and do some serious photoshopping on a large screen that is not covered with fingerprints and can be calibrated for proper harmony with my printer.
If the mood overtakes me, I may also toss a nice audiophile pressing on my Linn and frighten the cats with some actual sonic clarity. Itunes! Ear buds! Bose docking stations! Bah!!!
consistent interface, the curated app store, and the defined hardware.
In other words: one look, one device. No options. How many different ROMs can you put on an iPhone? Answer: none. How many phones come with iOS stock? Answer: 1. You are constantly left waiting for the sickly Steve Jobs to tell you what devices you want and when you will get them.
Now compare that with Android. The only Android devices that aren't truly open source are due to the carrier or hardware vendors; not google. My old ass Incredible feels new every week because I can easily put a new theme, rom, tweak etc. You name it. Now, compare that with my Droid X. It has way better hardware, but ROM support is crap because of a locked bootloader thanks to Motorola.
Secondly: what's with all the Apple lawsuits? They sue because they can't compete?
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"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square
PS - I know that tablets can already easily interface to HDTVs, I've done it with my iPad2, but it ain't pretty, some sites like Hulu don't support it, others like Netflix restrict content, so I still consider this feature very much a work in progress
You're not a hacker, are you? Hulu works just fine if you do a bit of hacking.
hooah212002 writes:
sure, I'll go with that. they just need way more storage space to really be feasible.
Haha, you missed the part where I soldered in a 500 GB hard drive inside my tablet.
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