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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Lurkers: what say you?
I suppose that I am a semi-lurker these days, in that I am not posting much. It does not matter to me whether Buz has full privileges reinstated. His posts were never worth reading, unless you were looking for something to laugh at. He still hasn't a clue as to what constitutes evidence, and there seems to be little chance that he will get a clue.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Aware Wolf Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 156 From: New Hampshire, USA Joined: |
One lurker's opinion:
My time perusing EvC is limited, so I tend to skip over posts from those who I have decided are just not worth my time, which includes Buz. Edited by Aware Wolf, : grammar
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rueh Member (Idle past 3686 days) Posts: 382 From: universal city tx Joined:
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I consider myself a semi-profesional lurker here at EVC. I would like to see Buzzsaws posting privileges restored. If for nothing else than he is a better read than the newest batch of creationist advocates. That being said, I don't believe that the quality of evidence will ever improve from Buz. I think that if he did actually have objective evidence it would have been presented already. In my opinion, he will continue to quible on the semantics of subjective and collaberating evidence.
'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat' The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: |
I do the same thing with ICANT.
The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4042 Joined: Member Rating: 8.0
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I'd like to see Buz restored to full access.
My typical view is that the solution to bad/inappropriate/wrong speech is more speech, not censorship. I know it can be tiring to have thread topics rehashed, and to have topics derailed. But Creationism largely spawns from a difference in what is or is not considered evidence. How many Creationists have successfully posted evidence in support of claims in a science forum? I'd rather have more debate opponents than fewer. If their definition of evidence is silly, then so be it - part of the point of the EvC debate is revealing ridiculous breaks in logic. One can hardly complain when an individual simply continues to help show a common flaw in reasoning.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined:
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I haven't privately communicated with Admin on this, but I'll plug it into this topic. I favor allowing Buz to do "Great Debates".
I (the non-admin mode) do intend to get back to my Buzsaw "Great Debate" (maybe tonight???). Adminnemooseus ps - I also do intend to do the big "Whine List" message (probably not tonight).Please be familiar with the various topics and other links in the "Essential Links", found in the top of the page menu. Amongst other things, this is where to find where to report various forum problems.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Ah, I think that's a good compromise - that would allow people to participate with Buz on the subjects they think he's capable of addressing, without allowing Buz-style nonsense to spill over into other threads.
You can close the board down, now - Moose and I agreed on something.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Adminnemooseous writes: I haven't privately communicated with Admin on this, but I'll plug it into this topic. I favor allowing Buz to do "Great Debates".I (the non-admin mode) do intend to get back to my Buzsaw "Great Debate" (maybe tonight???). ps - I also do intend to do the big "Whine List" message (probably not tonight). Hi Adminnemooseous. Thank you. I cannot propose new topics. Does that mean that if someone submits a proposal to debate me that I can engage if I wish? Since you're game, I'd rather debate further with you on this current matter of dating problems for creationism which you aired than to involve another members. I have done some research on dating methodologies and some of the problems relative to them which might make for good debate fodder. I began to respond to one of your comments up-thread from the last message, but business matters came up, preventing me from getting it up. Looking forward to getting back into it, weighing in between other activities. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Crashfrog writes: .........Buz-style nonsense to spill over into other threads. Hey, bud, your kind of nonsense makes sense to the secularistic ideology of the majority constituency here, but some of us peon creationists see your stuff as nonsense, spilling into the threads. The majority of Americans are theistic, including no small number of scientists. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
but some of us peon creationists see your stuff as nonsense, spilling into the threads. It's too bad you've never been able to refute it, then.
The majority of Americans are theistic, including no small number of scientists. Yes, but, to be fair, the majority of Americans are also total morons. And I doubt you'd recognize the "theism" of most "theistic" scientists as anything but Spinoza-style near-atheism. For the most part they'd make Jar look like the Pope. Edited by crashfrog, : No reason given.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Rahvin writes: I'd like to see Buz restored to full access. Thanks Rahvin
My typical view is that the solution to bad/ inappropriate/wrong speech is more speech, not censorship. Mmm, Your implication; bad speech. That's what debates are about; ideologies pitted against one another. What's cool for the goose may be bad for the gander.
Rahvin writes: I know it can be tiring to have thread topics rehashed, and to have topics derailed. Check out the off topic warnings (at large) by moderators. My guess is that Buz stuff gets no more than some of the others who never get taken to the woodshed by Admin.
Rahvin writes: How many Creationists have successfully posted evidence in support of claims in a science forum? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha; LOL, Ravin on any of you people ever acknowledging evidence for anything even remotely related to the supernatural. Your heads are in the sand. You don't want to see the evidence. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
crashfrog writes: . .......the majority of Americans are also total morons Mmm, considering the last Presidential election, I guess I have to agree. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
rueh writes: ..........collaberating evidence. Collaberated evidence doesn't cut it with me. I prefer corroborating evidences, so as to lend the maximum support to any given hypothesis. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
crashfrog writes: .......the majority of Americans are also total morons. Mmm, considering the last Presidential election, I guess I have to agree. Buz, if you are going to argue in favor of the GWB legacy or the merits of the current crop of Republican candidates, you need to find the appropriate "Coffee House" topic. AdminnemooseusPlease be familiar with the various topics and other links in the "Essential Links", found in the top of the page menu. Amongst other things, this is where to find where to report various forum problems.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Admin writes: my actual position on scientific evidence is that it be empirical. Real events, natural or otherwise, leave behind evidence apparent to our senses Your position pretty much matches The Free Online Dictionary definition, with one problematic exception; that theorized evidence is not empirical.
quote: Fossils Are Dated By Theory quote: (abe: It appears that what you are requiring from me is what you do not apply to yourself and theorized evidence which others cite in the science forums.) Edited by Buzsaw, : Add comment. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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