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NoNukes
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Message 113 of 136 (635279)
09-28-2011 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by fearandloathing
09-20-2011 5:12 PM


Re: Gay Ban LIfted
I can't say for certain, but I have always felt the "Don't ask, don't tell" policy was religiously motivated. Most people I have discussed anti-gay law/policies seem to fall back on religion as the reason it, homosexuality, is wrong and shouldn't be tolerated.
I think you are wrong here. Prior to DADT, the policy was that being gay got you kicked out of the military probably with something other than an honorable discharge. The military did ask you if you were gay when you signed up.
As odious as DADT was, it did allow some people to serve that would have been summarily booted or not even allowed to enter the service under prior policy.

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NoNukes
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Message 129 of 136 (661497)
05-06-2012 9:39 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by fearandloathing
05-06-2012 6:54 PM


Re: Amendment 1/ Racist?
I would love for her to explain how she used the word "Caucasian" and not have been being racist?
No question that the usage was racist/xenophobic. But I think the idea is not that Caucasian's are gay in larger numbers than others. More likely, the idea is that Caucasians must multiply as quickly as possible in order to overcome the projected population increases from other segments of the population. I think you can complete the hypothetical xenophobic scenario without any additional help from me.
I spent some time over the last couple of months at the home of a near octogenarian who watches nothing but sports and religious television (TCT) at least 12 hours a day. On particular show on TCT featured local pastors spewing homophobic bile, in an effort to drum up support for 'Amendment One'. One pastor sprayed that simply contemplating that he might be standing next to a man who was attracted to men made him want to throw up. Another pastor ranted that the amendment would make it less likely that he would be convicted of a hate speech crime simply for preaching his normal sermons.
I believe that sentiments of these kinds are more typical of the reasons why people support amendment one. And those sentiments are also reflective of the reason why we have a constitution with a bill of rights. There is simply no protection for a minority group when the majority can strip them of their rights with a simple 50.001/49.999 vote.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison

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