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IamJoseph
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Message 226 of 301 (635870)
10-02-2011 2:39 PM
Reply to: Message 225 by Coyote
10-02-2011 10:39 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
Yes, billions of years, which makes my request for any real evidence, without words like 'it is believed' very reasonable. One does not even need writing to recall a name - I asked for a single one, or even a folk song or a deity. I pointed out also how this aligns so exactingly with the 6000 figure - hardly seems accidental. Buriels, hand tools, mass graves and stone scratchings are unacceptable proof. As I said, no sane mind can disregard the relevant issues, and you have not addressed them.

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frako
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Message 227 of 301 (635875)
10-02-2011 3:17 PM
Reply to: Message 226 by IamJoseph
10-02-2011 2:39 PM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
dint i give you a list of summerian kings a while ago?

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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IamJoseph
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Message 228 of 301 (635876)
10-02-2011 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 227 by frako
10-02-2011 3:17 PM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
Not me. Sumer is under 6000.

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frako
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Message 229 of 301 (635878)
10-02-2011 3:33 PM
Reply to: Message 228 by IamJoseph
10-02-2011 3:28 PM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
well noone invented writing before them and if you believe the bible i get to believe their writings so their king list goes hundreds of thousands years back

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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Panda
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Message 230 of 301 (635879)
10-02-2011 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 225 by Coyote
10-02-2011 10:39 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
Coyote writes:
Could this be a matter of no written records prior to 6,000 years ago rather than the lack of speech?
But...but...NO!
Speech DID NOT exist before written records.
The first written words were in Hebrew.
Man saw these words and wondered what they said - SO HE SPOKE THEM OUT ALOUD!!
See!?
Written words first. THEN speech.
(Or maybe he spoke a word and thought:
"Jesus! This sounds important! I'll make a note of it in my bible...")
Well, whatever.
Either way: THERE WAS NO SPEECH OR WRITING BEFORE THE BIBLE!!
/poe

Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR
Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.

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IamJoseph
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Message 231 of 301 (635908)
10-02-2011 9:43 PM
Reply to: Message 229 by frako
10-02-2011 3:33 PM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
Give us a name or a nation, a war, city, monument - anything older than 6000 which is hard copy instead of 'claims'. Show a thread of graduations every few hundred years throughout that period of 100s of 1000s of years. Why are you shouting at me as if I ask for something too difficult or that it is reasonable to have such a stark vacuum in the history of modarn speech endowed humans - and what factor makes everything change dramatically at the 6000 point - so exactly?
Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.

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IamJoseph
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Message 232 of 301 (635909)
10-02-2011 9:45 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by Panda
10-02-2011 3:42 PM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
Give us a name or a nation, a war, city, monument - anything older than 6000 which is hard copy instead of 'claims'. Show a thread of graduations every few hundred years throughout that period of 100s of 1000s of years. Why are you shouting at me as if I ask for something too difficult or that it is reasonable to have such a stark vacuum in the history of modarn speech endowed humans - and what factor makes everything change dramatically at the 6000 point - so exactly?

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frako
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Message 233 of 301 (635936)
10-03-2011 6:17 AM
Reply to: Message 232 by IamJoseph
10-02-2011 9:45 PM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
Lol you are a Poe right

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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Panda
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Message 234 of 301 (635937)
10-03-2011 6:26 AM
Reply to: Message 231 by IamJoseph
10-02-2011 9:43 PM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
IamJoseph writes:
Why are you shouting at me
It was a reply to Coyote.
IamJoseph writes:
Give us a name or a nation, a war, city, monument - anything older than 6000 which is hard copy instead of 'claims'.
There was no speech or writing before the bible!!
The bible was first!!
After that came writing and speech!!
Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR
Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.

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IamJoseph
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Message 235 of 301 (635939)
10-03-2011 6:44 AM
Reply to: Message 234 by Panda
10-03-2011 6:26 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
The Hebrew bible came late in the ancient world and was a very small nation even at its peak. However it did make some contributions which are way too big for its size, seemingly then and now, and under terrible conditions.
It introduced many thought patterns and laws for humanity, almost all vindicated and accepted by the world. I find it intriguing such advanced thoughts and writings at such an early period could have been performed by a bunch of desert people enslaved for centuries, and there is none they could have stolen or copied it from. How come the first alphabetical book is the Hebrew, before many mightier and older nations, and none appear elsewhere until centuries later?

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frako
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From: slovenija
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Message 236 of 301 (635942)
10-03-2011 7:36 AM
Reply to: Message 235 by IamJoseph
10-03-2011 6:44 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
and there is none they could have stolen or copied it from.
Well they kinda copied it from the summerians you know they had a grate flood before the bible, they had their adam and eve before the bible was written, hell even the new testament is copyed there where numerus magical babies, 3 wise men, dying and comming back to life after 3 days or on a saturday ......
ONE example would be mithras
sone of god
died came back to life
was called the good sheppard
birthday 25 of december
.....
or the tower of babal
A Sumerian myth similar to that of the Tower of Babel, called Enmerkar and the Lord of Aratta, where Enmerkar of Uruk is building a massive ziggurat in Eridu and demands a tribute of precious materials from Aratta for its construction, at one point reciting an incantation imploring the god Enki to restore (or in Kramer's translation, to disrupt) the linguistic unity of the inhabited regions — named as Shubur, Hamazi, Sumer, Uri-ki (Akkad), and the Martu land, "the whole universe, the well-guarded people — may they all address Enlil together in a single language.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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Panda
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Message 237 of 301 (635946)
10-03-2011 8:01 AM
Reply to: Message 235 by IamJoseph
10-03-2011 6:44 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
IamJoseph writes:
How come the first alphabetical book is the Hebrew, before many mightier and older nations, and none appear elsewhere until centuries later?
That is what I said.
The bible was first.
There was NO writing before the bible.
The first alphabetical book is the Hebrew!

Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR
Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.

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IamJoseph
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Posts: 2822
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Message 238 of 301 (635947)
10-03-2011 8:26 AM
Reply to: Message 236 by frako
10-03-2011 7:36 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
No son of God in the Hebrew bible. The flood is mentioned in Hamurabi, which is post-Abraham and Moses.

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IamJoseph
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Joined: 06-30-2007


Message 239 of 301 (635948)
10-03-2011 8:28 AM
Reply to: Message 237 by Panda
10-03-2011 8:01 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
I thought you were being sarcastic as most here do not agree with it, even when they cannot provide a counter.

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frako
Member (Idle past 305 days)
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Message 240 of 301 (635951)
10-03-2011 8:40 AM
Reply to: Message 238 by IamJoseph
10-03-2011 8:26 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
still older then the oldest bible

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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