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crashfrog
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Message 346 of 429 (637091)
10-13-2011 10:52 AM
Reply to: Message 344 by hooah212002
10-13-2011 10:37 AM


How many Android devices have you tried?
A couple that were current about when the iPhone 4 came out. I found them slow and unresponsive, due to the JVM overhead. The only advantage seems to be that, on Android platforms, Google doesn't decide how many fart apps you can have access to on the phone. Whoopty-doo.
How many dual core iPhones are there?
Currently, one - the iPhone 4S. The iPad is also a dual-core A5. And without the need to operate a JVM on top of the kernel, they're faster than equivalent Android models.

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jar
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Message 347 of 429 (637093)
10-13-2011 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 343 by crashfrog
10-13-2011 10:35 AM


Okay, some other maybe silly questions.
Crash writes:
The new notifications center?
Notification of what?
Crash writes:
Location-based reminders?
HUH?
Reminders of what?
Crash writes:
Siri
Siri is what?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Larni
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From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 348 of 429 (637094)
10-13-2011 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 343 by crashfrog
10-13-2011 10:35 AM


You can get siri on the iPad 2?
Abe: the wifi sync does not seem to work and I can't link to iCloud.
B'ah!
Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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Larni
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Message 349 of 429 (637095)
10-13-2011 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 347 by jar
10-13-2011 10:56 AM


The notification centre is for your notifications; so that they don't barge into other apps, like before.
Location based reminders remind you of things based on your location e.g. 'it's 8am, your in the loo, take a dump'.
I think siri is some kind of natural voice comand for the iPohone 4S.
Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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hooah212002
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Message 350 of 429 (637097)
10-13-2011 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 346 by crashfrog
10-13-2011 10:52 AM


A couple that were current about when the iPhone 4 came out.
What phone and what ROM? Of course shitty phones are going to be shitty.
I found them slow and unresponsive, due to the JVM overhead.
You sure it wasn't because of bloatware or shitty hardware?
The only advantage seems to be that, on Android platforms, Google doesn't decide how many fart apps you can have access to on the phone. Whoopty-doo.
Oh right, the only apps available are fart apps.
And without the need to operate a JVM on top of the kernel, they're faster than equivalent Android models.
Faster at what? And what would equivalent Android phones be?

"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

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jar
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Message 351 of 429 (637098)
10-13-2011 11:15 AM
Reply to: Message 349 by Larni
10-13-2011 11:01 AM


Okay, but what notifications would I get?
I thought I had a brain to tell me what I should do in some location.
And siri is "I'm afraid I can't do that Dave"? I thought that was only for pod doors, not pads?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 352 of 429 (637101)
10-13-2011 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 351 by jar
10-13-2011 11:15 AM


Well say I'm hard at work playing Doom on my pad and I get an email.
Time was the app would freeze and I'd have to exit Doom, fire up Safari and read my lastest invitation to meet real Russian girls for fun.
Now a ticker tape rolls across the top of the screen without having to exit the app.
I'm with you on the location reminders: If'n I can't remember to buy food when I'm in the shops or telephone patients when I'm at work I should be shot like a dog.
And buggered if I'm going to make any use out of icloud. I make a point of having different apps on my pad and phone because I use them for different things.
I don't want music on my pad, nor do I want games on my phone (well not big time gobbling ones, anyway). And given that a laptop is nearly always on in my house anyway the devices will sync to that perfetly fine.
Can't seem to find anything useful with icloud.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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Percy
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Message 353 of 429 (637103)
10-13-2011 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 352 by Larni
10-13-2011 11:41 AM


iCloud Question
I just visited iCloud for the first time and am wondering how it is supposed to work. No longer do I have to sync with iTunes, I'm supposedly sync'd with the cloud, but there's no record of anything from my iPad2 in the cloud.
I assume this is because my backup to the cloud failed, the one that should have happened before installation, but when will my "stuff" get backed up to the cloud? There doesn't seem to be any way to initiate this manually.
Is there an "iCloud Fully Explained" page online somewhere? I've Googled about, but haven't come across a good one yet.
--Percy

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jar
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From: Texas!!
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Message 354 of 429 (637104)
10-13-2011 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 352 by Larni
10-13-2011 11:41 AM


iPad is not iPhone is not ...
Makes sense.
I do not want email on my iPad, but if I did, email should go to the email application and sit quietly until I tell it to speak.
I absolutely hate iTunes, perhaps the most obnoxious music player app I have ever come across, utterly insulting and not designed for anyone with even the least ability to think or discriminate.
I have a phone to make calls, and only three people know that number. My land line has an answering machine so I can decide if the call is from someone I wish to talk to.
I play no video or computer games, so that is irrelevant.
iCloud seems useless unless I can decide exactly which material should be replicated on which device.
And WiFi sync does not seem to work at all.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


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Message 355 of 429 (637106)
10-13-2011 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 353 by Percy
10-13-2011 11:52 AM


Re: iCloud Question
As best as I can see the only thing to write home about is the permasync iCloud allows.
And given that you start with 5 gigs data storage limit and have to buy more I can't see how anyone can back up thier devices without buying more iCloud real estate.
Unless I'm missing something Apple can shove iCloud up their arse.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 356 of 429 (637107)
10-13-2011 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 354 by jar
10-13-2011 11:56 AM


Re: iPad is not iPhone is not ...
And WiFi sync does not seem to work at all.
I'm going to try to get to bottom of that when I get home. I think by enabling iCloud you disable wifi sync.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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jar
Member (Idle past 415 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 357 of 429 (637108)
10-13-2011 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 356 by Larni
10-13-2011 12:25 PM


Re: iPad is not iPhone is not ...
Well, I deleted the iCloud account but the iPad still does not see the computer as online.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 358 of 429 (637110)
10-13-2011 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 357 by jar
10-13-2011 12:46 PM


Re: iPad is not iPhone is not ...
To get it to sync via wifi you need to to enable it in the iDevice pane 'Summary' and then go to General on the device, then iTunes sync. It appears you can sync and use the device now, also.
There is also an option to enable iCloud back up on the Summary page.
Hope that helps.
Abe: and, and, and while it is syncing it's beaming comics over from the PC to the pad which I can read as it syncs, during the act of syncing.
I tried pulling the power lead and it kept on syncing, also.
Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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crashfrog
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Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 359 of 429 (637112)
10-13-2011 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 354 by jar
10-13-2011 11:56 AM


Re: iPad is not iPhone is not ...
Jar, I literally don't understand how you approach technology. If you dont get email on your iPad, and you don't put music on it, and you don't game on it, what on earth do you do with it? Can you elaborate on how a music player can be for people who can't think or discriminate? I've used iTunes since it came out; it's ugly but I don't recall ever being insulted by it.
Also - you mentioned last night that it was the first time you had ever plugged your iPad into a computer. So if you're not synccing to a computer ever, what did you expect wifi sync to sync to?

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jar
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From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 360 of 429 (637113)
10-13-2011 1:47 PM
Reply to: Message 358 by Larni
10-13-2011 1:12 PM


Re: iPad is not iPhone is not ...
Where would I find an iDevice pane?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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