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subbie Member (Idle past 1255 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
sounds to me like it could besome form of granite Isn't that just like you anti-god "evilutionist" types, always taking everything for granite. Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1255 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
I take it from that assemblage of nonsense that you have no answer to the question asked in the OP.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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subbie Member (Idle past 1255 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
SavageD writes:
This:
Btw, why do you say that my comment is an "assemblage of nonsense"? SavageD writes: It's just imaginary, like my house, it wasn't designed...it assembled itself.Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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subbie Member (Idle past 1255 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
I said it was nonsense, why would I agree with it?
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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Well, thanks for playing.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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subbie Member (Idle past 1255 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
SavageD writes: There was a time I came here and posted frequently, and each time I would give my reasoning as to how you could determine that something could be the product of an intelligent agent. Then it would be a simple matter to cut and paste those previous posts, or even link to them. I predict you won't do either.Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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subbie Member (Idle past 1255 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
He doesn't need to here, Panda. He's already addressed this many times in other threads.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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subbie Member (Idle past 1255 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Erm. Why bother posting if you have nothIng to say? How would he ever post?Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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Both above statements can be generally acknowledged as being true, so how will one ever negate itself by failing to produce conclusive evidence? The key problem is your use of the word "conclusive." If by that you mean evidence such that it leaves room for no other possible conclusion and establishes something beyond question, science never seeks or even acknowledges "conclusive evidence." All evidence and all conclusions in science are tentative. Everything is constantly questioned and new evidence is always sought. Already acquired evidence is re-evaluated for accuracy and to see if a better theory can be developed to replace the current one.
There is evidence that seems to point toward evolution. All evidence supports the Theory of Evolution.
There is also much evidence lacking. If by that you mean there are still unanswered questions, you are of course correct. This is true of all areas of science. That's why scientific investigation is a never ending process. Every answer yields new questions. This is in fact a hallmark of a scientific theory.
The same can be said of the design argument. The fact that much of the evidence for design is not the kind that science would prefer is irrelevant, for science and design, while compatible, are not ONE. There is no scientific evidence for design. The only "evidence" for design is religion-based. There are certainly some who believe they can reconcile design with science, but I have yet to see any convincing efforts to do so.
I do not believe the burden of proof rests on my shoulders simply because someone says it does, anymore than evolution has to prove itself to me because I say it does (and the fact that it does not is awfully convenient, since there is nothing absolutely conclusive for it to present to me). The burden of proof rests on the person making a claim because of simple logic. Proving that a claim is false is very difficult, and in some cases impossible. That you are not convinced by the evidence supporting evolution says more about your level of knowledge about evolution than it does about the evidence.Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate ...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist
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