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Author Topic:   This just in, Wisconsin Senators Pass Bill Pushing Abstinence Over Contraception
frako
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Message 4 of 117 (639720)
11-03-2011 9:12 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
11-03-2011 8:17 AM


At what age do you people get sex education??
I cant remember well
But the first par is arround 8-10 years old where the whole birds and the bees thing is explained, and a few years after that say 10-12 years old you get the whole how to use contraceptives, what contraceptives are available, their availability, and effectives, the effectiveness off "pulling out", sexually transmitted desieses, and stuff like that. And off course that the best protection is abstinence duh.

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frako
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Message 34 of 117 (639882)
11-04-2011 3:09 PM


Um given that you have problems teaching kids what contraceptives are how you use them and their effectivnes, it seems silly to ask but do you have some sort of advanced Sex education??
When i was around 16 in high school we had a really hippy typ of teacher and in his classes of sociology we also discussed erogen zones u know the places on the body when stimulated make you horny.
Like on the face you have the ears, on the sides next to the nose the eye lids, the lips and on the woman if you stimulate her enough her whole body acts as an erogene zone
Stuff like that did you ever cover them in school or no ?
I think it was grate we got to cover this stuff improved my sex life from zero to a man whore

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frako
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Message 39 of 117 (639898)
11-04-2011 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Jon
11-04-2011 5:38 PM


Re: What's the Problem?
You simply cannot say you practiced abstinence but got pregnant/an STD anyway. If you got either of those, you didn't practice abstinence. Just like if you had sex without a condom, you didn't use a condom. If you have sex without practicing abstinence, you didn't practice abstinence.
Well what he ment to say is that its harder for teens to practice abstinence then to put on a condom, in fact putting on a condom is wayyyy easier for teens then to practice abstinence
Just remember how horny u used to be in those days so its a good idea to let them learn about other options as well.

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frako
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Message 56 of 117 (639936)
11-05-2011 12:23 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by hooah212002
11-05-2011 12:14 AM


Re: Serious question
Surely sex education teachers could, along with teaching contraceptive methods, tell children "the only truly effective way to NOT have unwanted pregnancies or get STD's is to NOT have sex" while at the same time informing them of the risks.
I think the problem is when a teacher preaches for 40 minutes how bad it is to have sex out of wedlock, ho it makes god cry, and in the last 5 minutes he says well these are your other options the condom, the pill ..... surgical alteration, well thats all folks see you tomorrow.

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frako
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Message 77 of 117 (640161)
11-07-2011 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by Modulous
11-07-2011 4:59 PM


Re: Serious question
Where they are advised that it is morally and socially acceptable to abstain as an aid against peer pressure etc (overt and otherwise).
Its not peer presure per se, its gen pressure their sexual organs are starting to or have developed and their hormones are dictating to them have sex, to abstain is fighting your own nature in a sense.
Im not saying its bad to abstain it is one option one can take but it is the hardest option.
Edit: abstaining to me is saying no im not going to have sex with you because im too young, bla bla bla. Not im not going to have sex with you because i dont have a shot, i have not got a clue how to get in your pants, there hasto be some sex on the table for you to abstain from it otherwise its like a poor man who does not have any food saying im on a diet, he is not he is starving.
As for not having sex before marriage i find it silly what if on your honeymoon you find out that your life partner isnt worth a dam in bed.
Edit: i rather go with a social norm from an African tribe where if the husband finds out that his wife is a virgin he demands a larger dowry from the womans father because he hasto teach her everything.
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frako
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Message 81 of 117 (640169)
11-07-2011 6:30 PM
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11-07-2011 6:14 PM


Re: Serious question
There are some people that believe that a lifetime relationship should not be dependent on sexual prowess.
The more you have in common with a person or try to have in common the better the relationship being totally different in sexua,l preferance, prowess .... count too.

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frako
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Message 117 of 117 (640784)
11-13-2011 6:10 AM
Reply to: Message 111 by dwise1
11-12-2011 2:52 AM


Re: Truth
I served six years active duty as a "cold warrior" on a SAC base, then another 29 years as a reservist, ready to be mobilized at any moment.
Um even though its off topic how do your countries reservists work, in mine its not a bad deal if you are short on cash you get 3 months of training and they pay you for it not much though around 1500 EUR, after that if you are military material they keep you as a reservist you have to go and train and stuff on weekends get payed for it and they only call on you if our country is under attack.
I personally like my weekends too much to take the deal , but allot of folks did. I personally preffered it before when every able man got a few months of basic training and every vaulentiring women too u could say that you cant kill because of any reason but then you had other training that does not involve a gun. this old system provided us with at least 700 000 standing reservists that did not cost the country a penny after their basic training was done, it provided the youth with discipline, and it proved its worth in ww2 even though we where occupied by the Germans we made it hell for them to hold our country, it also proved its worth in our independence ware of 10 days lol our "army" of cops real army and ACTIVE reservists numbered at 26000 theirs was 36000 with tanks and airplanes and the like witch we did not have. We lost 18 people 180 where wounded none captured, they lost 44 people 144 wounded and over 5000 captured.

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