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New Cat's Eye
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Message 466 of 1485 (645604)
12-28-2011 11:21 AM
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12-27-2011 6:54 PM


Re: Freedom from religion?
We don't debate by link, and certainly not by video.
What's in those videos?
Why do christians keep repeating this claim that we have freedom of religion not freedom from religion?
What do you think they mean by "freedom from religion"? Do they mean that there wouldn't be allowed to be any religious billboards, or something?
I mean, is there some kind of mental block I'm not aware of? Why can't christians understand that in order to have true freedom of religion everyone must have the freedom from religion so that no one religion can take over the country.
What do you mean by "freedom from religion"?
I don't see how congress being unable to establish a religion means that you are free from religion in general. Just because congress can't establish a religion doesn't mean that Jehovah's Witnesses can't come knocking on my door... but I don't think that's what you're talking about. Too, I don't what you're talking about is what they are talking about.

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Taz
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Message 467 of 1485 (645629)
12-28-2011 3:03 PM
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12-28-2011 11:21 AM


Re: Freedom from religion?
CS writes:
I don't see how congress being unable to establish a religion means that you are free from religion in general. Just because congress can't establish a religion doesn't mean that Jehovah's Witnesses can't come knocking on my door... but I don't think that's what you're talking about. Too, I don't what you're talking about is what they are talking about.
Memo: It's been long established that the first amendment don't just apply to congress anymore. Try looking up selective incorporation.
You should watch those videos. Those are the best people the christian right can muster up.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 468 of 1485 (645631)
12-28-2011 3:07 PM
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12-28-2011 3:03 PM


Re: Freedom from religion?
Have you heard about the price of tea in China lately?
You should watch those videos.
Not gonna happen here at work.

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Message 469 of 1485 (645676)
12-29-2011 12:23 AM


Things Michele Bachmann Doesn't Know
Things Michele Bachmann Doesn'tKnow, part umpteen-zillion-and-six: Things That Just Happened And Were In All The Newspapers.
The president can put abortion pills for girls 8 years of age, 11 years of age, on the bubblegum aisle, Bachmann continued, apparently in reference to a recommendation by the FDA that the morning after pill be available over the counter, which both the administration and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius recently rejected.
Also, Things Rick Perry Doesn't Know:
Every barrel of oil that comes out of those sands in Canada is a barrel of oil that we don’t have to buy from a foreign source, Mr. Perry said in Clarinda, earning a loud round of enthusiastic applause.

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Message 470 of 1485 (645679)
12-29-2011 12:45 AM
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12-29-2011 12:23 AM


Re: Things Michele Bachmann Doesn't Know
Dr Adequate writes:
Also, Things Rick Perry Doesn't Know:
Every barrel of oil that comes out of those sands in Canada is a barrel of oil that we don’t have to buy from a foreign source, Mr. Perry said in Clarinda, earning a loud round of enthusiastic applause.
That's ignorance squared, as the Canadian tar sands oil, once refined in the U.S., is earmarked for export.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Message 471 of 1485 (645778)
12-29-2011 11:32 PM


Sinking Ship?
So Kent Sorenson, the chairman of Michele Bachmann's Iowa campaign, has quit to support Ron Paul.
'Chele claims that he's been bribed:
Bachmann said Sorenson made the jump after "he was offered a large sum of money to go to work for the Paul campaign."
"Kent said to me yesterday that 'everyone sells out in Iowa, why shouldn't I,'" Bachmann said in a written statement. "Then he told me he would stay with our campaign. The Ron Paul campaign has to answer for its actions."
Hey, doesn't she believe in capitalism? Supply and demand, 'Chele, supply and demand. Market forces, yay!
The Ron Paul campaign denies this, they would wouldn't they? Sorenson's stated reason is that Ron Paul is a Truer Conservative than Bachmann, though it seems a bit late in the day to notice this.
In other news, a new poll puts Gingrich fourth in Iowa, because he is awful.

  
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Message 472 of 1485 (645779)
12-29-2011 11:41 PM


In ironic news
Governor Rick Perry is suing Virginia and he is using the federal court to do so.
Texas Gov. Rick Perry asked a federal court in Virginia today to block state election officials from printing or distributing presidential ballots that don't have his name on them.
Perry's emergency motion comes a day after the GOP presidential hopeful filed a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the state's ballot requirements.
The Republican Party of Virginia said last week that Perry failed to get the 10,000 signatures, including 400 from each of the state's 11 congressional districts, that are required to get on the ballot. Virginia is one of several states hosting a presidential primary on what is known as Super Tuesday, March 6
Yes folks: champion of states rights and naysayer of the federal government is using the latter to sue the former for exercizing their "states rights" that he so vehemently champions for.
You just can't make this shit up.

Mythology is what we call someone else’s religion. Joseph Campbell

  
Dr Adequate
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Message 473 of 1485 (645832)
12-30-2011 2:21 PM


Things Rick Santorum Doesn't Know
Do you know if you do two things in your life if you do two things in your life, you’re guaranteed never to be in poverty in this country? What two things, that if you do, will guarantee that you will not be in poverty in America? he asked the crowd.
Number one, graduate from high school. Number two, get married. Before you have children, he said. If you do those two things, you will be successful economically.
This is because your fairy godmother invariably attends your wedding so long as you avoid premarital sex.
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Message 474 of 1485 (645961)
01-01-2012 12:51 AM


Things Conservatives Worry About
Bachmann's co-chair of her Iowa campaign, one Tamara Scott, is worried that legal gay marriage will lead to people marrying the Eiffel Tower.
Two points come to mind. One is that someone has already married the Eiffel Tower, so gay marriage isn't going to change anything there.
But the other thing is ... why the fuck is she worried about it? Complete the following sentence: "If people marry the Eiffel Tower, the following dire consequences will ensue ..."
No, I've got nothing either. Really, when you consider all the problems that we actually face, I think the possibility of people marrying the Eiffel Tower is right down at the bottom of the list of things we should be concerned about.

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Message 475 of 1485 (646026)
01-02-2012 2:47 AM


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Message 476 of 1485 (646182)
01-03-2012 3:09 PM


http://youtu.be/TWVGVuviDIQ
http://youtu.be/FY-6ltu4oAQ
You can't make this shit up.
Added by edit.
Even Bill O'reilly gets annoyed at Bachmann for her idiocy.
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Message 477 of 1485 (646288)
01-04-2012 1:40 AM


Iowa Decides, No Not Really It Doesn't
Rick Santorum 29,944 24.5%
Mitt Romney 29,926 24.5%
Ron Paul 26,182 21.5%
Newt Gingrich 16,210 13.3%
Rick Perry 12,574 10.3%
Michele Bachmann 6,064 5.0%
Jon Huntsman 744 0.6%
Herman Cain 58 0.0%
Buddy Roemer 49 0.0%
No Preference 133 0.1%
Other 117 0.1%
So, Santorum is this week's not-Romney, Romney is Romney, Ron Paul gets the votes of his usual hard core of supporters and will never get anything else 'cos of being Ron Paul, Gingrich is a sore loser, Bachmann and Perry split the crazy people vote, and Jon Huntsman continues to follow his well-thought out strategy of hoping that all the other candidates get struck by lightning.

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Pressie
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Message 478 of 1485 (646293)
01-04-2012 3:53 AM
Reply to: Message 474 by Dr Adequate
01-01-2012 12:51 AM


Re: Things Conservatives Worry About
Hi Doc
I'm not really that interested in politics in general or American politics, as I always think (sometimes tongue in cheek, sometimes seriously) that the only good politician is a dead politician. However, I also know about having to take an interest in politics because politicians of all persuasions do take a very keen interest in the little money I have...
But this thread has been an eye-opener to me. OMG, can aspiring politicians seriously running for president of the only Superpower in the world really be that dum? Remember, American politics have an influence on every person on this planet.
This marrying the Eiffel Tower was funny, though. You asked "If people marry the Eiffel Tower, the following dire consequences will ensue ..."
Well, we might see some guy or gal sitting on top of that sharp, pointy end high in the clouds! We have to protect ourselves and our children from seeing that, although it could be a funny thing to see!
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Message 479 of 1485 (646295)
01-04-2012 4:23 AM
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01-04-2012 3:53 AM


Re: Things Conservatives Worry About
As a (fellow) foreigner I am just in awe. How can the GOP produce such a huge amount of idiocy to make a pick from. From an European standpoint the "defining" issues in American politics are mildly put curious.
I mean honestly - would you really be willing to give nuke codes to a guy (or a gal) who hears voices AND acts upon them? Why is hearing the voice of Sauron...sorry, judeo-christian God somehow better?

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Message 480 of 1485 (646296)
01-04-2012 4:33 AM
Reply to: Message 479 by saab93f
01-04-2012 4:23 AM


Re: Things Conservatives Worry About
It leaves me worried.
On one side, I love America, spent lots of time there and I've meat the most wonderful people over there. On the other side, I dispare when their leaders tell us that "God" told them to invade foreign countries.
We've had George Bush claiming that his god told him to invade Iraq. It's such a pity that the same god didn't also tell him that Sadam didn't have any WMD...And that same George had the fingers on those buttons for eight years!
What worries me too is that my political and economic convictions are very similar to that of the old GOP. The new GOP, with so many of the candidates fielding characteristics similar to that of the Taliban, scares me.
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