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frako
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Message 9 of 75 (647311)
01-09-2012 8:40 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Jon
01-08-2012 11:23 PM


Re: A Cure Worse than the Disease?
As well they shouldn't.
But honestly, I'm more concerned about the views expressed claiming this man should be arrested than I am worried about anything this bishop actually said. I think arresting him for expressing his views is far more dangerous than anything he said.
Jon
If i rally a mob in front of your house saying stuff like you work with the devil and you should be gang raped. Then the mob would proceed in to your house and gang rape you but i would stay outside or go and have a cup of coffee some place else. Would i be responsible for you being raped and should i be punished?

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frako
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Message 11 of 75 (647341)
01-09-2012 10:44 AM
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01-09-2012 10:27 AM


Re: A Cure Worse than the Disease?
I understand that the danger is that some people might really act on what this guys says but we can't say that speech is free unless there exist people who actually listen to you when you say nasty things.
I agree speech should be fully free but if your speech causes someone to hurt another you should be responsible too.
So if someone acts on the priests ramblings and rapes a woman who aborted a child the guy who acted and the priest should be arrested, and punished. the guy who acted gets tried for rape, the priest gets tried on incitement of violence.
edit:
If no one acts on the priests ramblings my faith in humanity is partly restored, and the priest can be left alone to preach all the hate he wants.
Edited by frako, : No reason given.

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frako
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Message 22 of 75 (647451)
01-09-2012 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Jazzns
01-09-2012 1:55 PM


Re: A Cure Worse than the Disease?
Someone saying, "I am outraged! We should riot!" should be protected speech.
Sure it should but when the ones listening to you rob my store blind i wil hold you responsible for inciting that sort of behavior. If no damage comes to me i have no problem with you screaming out anything you want.
Your rights go to the point where they dont infringe on the rights of others.

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frako
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Message 52 of 75 (647644)
01-10-2012 4:07 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by New Cat's Eye
01-10-2012 12:02 PM


I could think up other reasons... but when have you ever gotten the sense from the Vatican that they think they should comform to the normal rules of decent society?
Um like stop feeding people the body of a man while wearing a dress
The curch has been a powerhouse for the past 1500 years the most powerfull organisation for most of that time possibly still are, conforming to what plebs think just isnt that high upon their list of things to do.
Making things like this, or child abuse, go away is.
They also worry allot if sperm goes to waste, condoms are sin and stuff like that, and gays are evil stuff like that is way more important then a preacher who molests a child, or a priest who preaches raping women that had an abortion.

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