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Author Topic:   When does human life begin?
Percy
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Message 3 of 327 (649398)
01-23-2012 8:56 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by shadow71
01-23-2012 8:41 AM


When human life begins is a question of definitions, not science.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 5 of 327 (649404)
01-23-2012 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Straggler
01-23-2012 9:07 AM


Re: Conceptuses
Straggler writes:
If the church really wants to save human lives and genuinely believes that human life starts at the "point" of conception they should focus on research into this majority of conceptuses rather than get too riled up about the comparatively tiny amount that get intentionally aborted.
If saving human life as they have defined it really is the issue....
Yes, the underlying agenda is the key issue. If abortion is homicide then isn't allowing a conceptus to be flushed negligent homicide, or at least manslaughter?
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 21 of 327 (649468)
01-23-2012 3:31 PM
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01-23-2012 2:30 PM


shadow71 writes:
I am asking as to whether there is a scienctific definition of when human life begins.
In the U.S. the federal and State legislatures, if drafting a law as to what constitutes the crime of murder, will consult the scientific community in re the definition of human life.
And the scientific community would respond, "When human life begins is a matter of definitions, not science."
But science isn't left entirely out of the equation. If we take as an example your definition that human life begins "when the sperm and egg combine to form 46 human chromosomes that are implanted in the uterus and the human embro is formed," then science can provide a great deal of information about when these things happen.
But science can't give you a definition for when human life begins. Someone else has to do that.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 62 of 327 (649577)
01-24-2012 1:06 PM
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01-24-2012 11:11 AM


subbie writes:
A typical nonanswer from someone trying to avoid the issue.
Or he may have figured there was too much potential for drawing his thread off-topic.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 96 of 327 (649699)
01-25-2012 7:07 AM
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01-24-2012 3:11 PM


subbie writes:
Of course, since he simply punted, we'll never know for sure.
You could open a thread about how one balances the rights of mother and fetus in the Coffee House forum and invite SBR to join in the discussion.
--Percy

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