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Message 6 of 181 (649415)
01-23-2012 9:43 AM
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01-23-2012 9:39 AM


Re: What grinds my gears....
How exactly could you nuke someone that took away your social security?

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Message 19 of 181 (649431)
01-23-2012 10:16 AM
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01-23-2012 9:51 AM


Re: What grinds my gears....
Was the middle class fleeced?
Wasn't it the US Middle Class that elected politicians that dismantled the safeguards?
You have often told me that you refused to study history because it didn't interest you, but it might be a worthwhile effort to see if you could learn from what has happened in the past. the last time we saw an income disparity comparable to the present time was during the Edwardian and post Edwardian era.
What could be learned from what happened then?

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Message 21 of 181 (649434)
01-23-2012 10:29 AM
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01-23-2012 10:24 AM


Re: What grinds my gears....
That would be close to what actually happened initially and lead to the Parliament Act of 1911 IIRC.

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Message 77 of 181 (649982)
01-26-2012 7:39 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Buzsaw
01-26-2012 7:34 PM


Re: Oni Right On The US. Straggler Straggles
How many people in Norway had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?

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Message 90 of 181 (650049)
01-27-2012 9:27 AM
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01-27-2012 8:54 AM


Re: Oni Right On The US. Straggler Straggles
Just repeating unsupported assertions and trying to palm the pea instead of answering the question won't help your cause Buz.
How many people in Norway had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?
How many people in Cuba had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?
How many people in Japan had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?
How many people in England had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?
How many people in Germany had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?
How many people in Canada had to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses?

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Message 101 of 181 (650118)
01-27-2012 5:35 PM
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01-27-2012 4:51 PM


Re: The U in USA shows its Stripes
You do know that the retail grocery industry in China is growing at a very high pace and that retail chains, supermarkets and even hypermarkets are there?
You do know that right now there is more opportunity for Safeway in China than in the US?

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jar
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Message 103 of 181 (650128)
01-27-2012 8:13 PM
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01-27-2012 8:00 PM


Re: The U in USA shows its Stripes
Do you have anything other than more unsupported assertions Buz or maybe something related to the topic or what I posted?
You did notice that what I said was "You do know that right now there is more opportunity for Safeway in China than in the US?"

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Message 107 of 181 (650158)
01-28-2012 11:13 AM
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01-28-2012 11:05 AM


Re: The U in USA shows its Stripes
I would teach my kids that they need to compete with everyone else in the world and that it will be an exciting, wondrous and fun existence.

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jar
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Message 110 of 181 (650163)
01-28-2012 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by Straggler
01-28-2012 11:26 AM


Re: The U in USA shows its Stripes
Look I'm not really with Phat on this at all. But at the same time there are people around the world so desperate they are willing to sell their own kids. There are kids who scour rubbish dumps for a living. Sweatshops and child labor are rife. The Chinese government seems to give little regard to the safety or well-being of the workforce who implement it's projects.
In this environment it is practically impossible for any member of the developed world to compete without sinking to the same unacceptable level.
And that was also true in both the UK and in the US recently, during my lifetime as a matter of fact. What many folk don't see to remember is that even here in the US, sweat shops and virtual slavery (company towns and company script) existed even into and past WWII.
This mill coin as an example was minted in 1941.
When people were paid in company script, lived in company houses, could only shop in the company store there was no chance for advancement or mobility. You could not even put aside a nest egg to use to go look for other work.
Environmental concerns are a really, really recent development. Again, it is only within my lifetime that more than just lip service has been paid to either environmental concerns of work place safety.
For the most part the US and even the UK governments gave little regard to the safety or well-being of the workforce who implement it's projects.
But change does happen and there is no reason to expect that similar changes will not happen in China, Brazil, Nigeria, Vietnam, ...

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jar
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Message 112 of 181 (650233)
01-29-2012 8:43 AM
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01-29-2012 7:44 AM


Re: The U in USA shows its Stripes
The "here and now" has "gone and went".
We are always in the "here and now", and competition has always been an issue.
There are no solutions that are any good when the goal is the "here and now".
Solutions, if there will be solutions, will take time if they are to be effective.
Nor was I talking about levels of affluence, a term that is really vague anyway.
Edited by jar, : hit wrong key

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jar
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Message 120 of 181 (650439)
01-31-2012 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 119 by Phat
01-31-2012 7:46 AM


Re: Putting things in perspective
You heard a fact?
You do know that debt and budget are two different things don't you?

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jar
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Message 122 of 181 (650446)
01-31-2012 12:36 PM
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01-31-2012 12:34 PM


Re: Putting things in perspective
Do you understand what "inflate the debt away" means?

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jar
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Message 124 of 181 (650452)
01-31-2012 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by Phat
01-31-2012 12:45 PM


Re: Putting things in perspective
Yet from today's news:
quote:
The $1.1 trillion deficit is the smallest deficit figure both in nominal terms and as a percentage of the economy since the Great Recession.
Neither the debt or the deficit are really major problems. The problem is we continue to fail to invest and spend stupidly.

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Message 131 of 181 (650514)
01-31-2012 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by Phat
01-31-2012 5:14 PM


More utter nonsense Phat.
What we need to do is prevent the rest of the world from adopting a new global reserve currency for trade apart from the US Dollar.
HUH?
Do you know what "reserve currencies" are?
Why would it matter in what currency trade is conducted?

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jar
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Message 134 of 181 (650525)
01-31-2012 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by Phat
01-31-2012 5:42 PM


Re: More utter nonsense Phat.
We can print all the dollars we want, but what does that have to do with either the debt or deficit?
Other nations get to decide what they think the dollar is worth and if we just print money then guess what they do?

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